"Not everyone deserves to get the legendary"

I understand and agree 100% wholeheartedly that not every person should be able to just acquire the legendary with little effort… It SHOULD be difficult to achieve, but not in an RNG based way… There has to be a better way… People often make it out like the item has to keep it’s “legendary” status by being “Hard to get” but it doesn’t seem hard to get at all… it just seems completely luck based, other than that it just costs some gold to finish the quests… there is absolutely no difficulty in achieving it at all… The ONLY thing that makes it “legendary” or SEEM legendary is the fact that it’s artificially rare because of a bad RNG system…

I bring this up because I have seen countless people farming it for months on end, and the argument is often that it needs to remain “legendary” in a rare and difficult to achieve kind of way… and people often say “not everyone DESERVES to get it”

Today just now in guild chat a warrior that just rolled his character a couple weeks ago, Got the axe. On his second attempt EVER, killing Fyrakk Heroic… He didn’t even spend time building up Embers or killing the boss on LFR/Normal, He just went at Fyrakk 2 times on heroic and got it.

So if it’s a “Not everyone deserves it” argument, What exactly makes my guild mate who barely put any time in at all to get it acquiring the legendary on his 2nd EVER kill, deserve it more than say the person who’s put in 11-12 weeks of attempts and is told to suck it up and wait for the 15th week or w/e it is that’s apparently the “Guaranteed” week.

I just wish that as a community instead of flaming people that are upset with the current system, we could discuss ways to change the system that maybe blizzard would pickup on and implement in the future…

Here is a prime example of the community flaming people that are disappointed with the system, telling them to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and wait for the FIFTEENTH WEEK attempt for the “Guaranteed Drop” and rationalizing it by the fact that they think -
“Not everyone should be able to get legendary items with little effort”
“It should be hard to get, and rare”
“Not everyone Deserves a legendary”

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Can you tell me one piece of loot in the game thats not RNG right now ?

Exactly, it shouldn’t be easily obtainable by anyone who wants it, which is why it actually needs to be a mix of skills and RNG.

Your warrior friend who got it in 2 tries is an exception, and not the rule. It doesn’t happen often. Some people get crazy lucky. And also, this is after the drop increase.

Anyways, if it was not for some aspect of RNG, everyone in that class would have it by the end of the season, which should NOT be the point of a legendary weapon.

I haven’t been playing retail as much, mainly SoD, so I can’t say too much on it, but I would assume as the season progresses further it gets easier to run more difficult content. So if we make a 100% clear path to the legend based on skill and more difficult content alone, everyone will have it eventually. And that doesn’t really make sense for a “legendary weapon”

That is totally besides the point, the point is that a class defining item that has been given a legendary status, should not be completely LUCK and RNG based. What is “Legendary” about getting lucky?

I will never get the legendary :frowning:

So um all other gear is RNG and you want the leggo axe to be not RNG cuz its a leggo for your class ?

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Eh killed normal 6 times got it on my 3rd heroic Fyrakk kill.

Also was like two or three weekends straight I just couldn’t get into any heroic kills ever. RNG is RNG.

“Your warrior friend who got it in 2 tries is an exception, and not the rule. It doesn’t happen often. Some people get crazy lucky. And also, this is after the drop increase.”

But this is where you are wrong, I personally experienced seeing a person get it on their second kill ever today… But I’m far from the only person to experience witnessing someone acquire it very easily, There are countless stories of people getting it on their 1st 2nd or 3rd attempt at worst, sometimes even people who don’t even want the axe that specialize in Holy or Protection for example, it is FAR from a rare occurrence that people get VERY lucky…

With how many people play this game it’s absolutely ridiculous that you would claim that it’s a rare occurrence that people get lucky.

I notice you yourself didn’t actually suggest any ways Blizzard could change it to make it difficult instead of luck-based

Also, I think the entire idea of 1 class/role/whatever specific legendary in a tier is an absolutely horrible idea that shouldn’t be repeated.

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Personally, my fondest memories of legendaries were the Legion random drops and the BFA cloak that everyone got. A feature of both these systems was that I actually got to have something with orange text myself.

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I have mentioned it in many other posts, try reading the post I linked.

There’s also a ton of other people that have proposed ideas.

But that’s not even the entire point of this post, it’s more just a vent that it’s disappointing that people just flame others that are disappointed in the system when its so obviously a terrible system.

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It’s definitely a system I don’t like and I 100% disagree on blizzard claiming it’s a feat of skill when it’s totally RNG based and is just annoying mindless grinding to the quest part.

I read that post, it’s you whining about how bad Blizzard is because you can’t get the legendary. You still didn’t include any suggestions on ways to implement a better system that’s difficulty based, not skill based.

Regardless, you seem to enjoy making threads whining about the current system, but maybe if you instead made threads where the point was to actually suggest changes, you might get more traction. As it stands, I can understand why people just flame you for your threads. You aren’t being constructive whatsoever when you create them.

RNG is RNG.

I got the Zulian Tiger back in TBC by soloing the raid as a 13-year-old kid lol.

I’m sure many have spend thousands of dollars, turn it into gold, just so they can have an attempt at bidding on one in the Black Market Auction House.

Or those containers with random things inside that go for several thousand.

Something my stupid kid self got for very little effort, I just showed up to the raid every week lol.

I honestly thought about selling my WoW account back in the day, for the money, but it’s basically a time capsule of my childhood and that’s priceless.

It’s just funny that my 13-year-old self was flexing and people likely had no idea it was just some kid on the other computer lol.

Yep, that’s it.

:roll_eyes:

All I want is for ranged casters to have a legendary… Hunter’s got theirs, Melee got their Axe… Evokers… What about us casters!!

I’m not saying people getting lucky is a rare occurrence necessarily. I’m saying it’s not the rule.

If you plucked 2 random people out of the game and set them side by side, and one person logged on and tried for the axe once every few weeks on just 1 difficultly, and the other person tried for it every week. The persistent person will have a better probability of getting it.

And the difference is that the Zulian tiger is still obtainable, and is relevant to this day.

While the legendary axe of this season might not even be relevant the very next season unless they give us the ability to upgrade the legendary items (I hope they do this for both legendary items), and may be very difficult to even attempt to obtain as soon as the fated season coming up.

The difference is that the legendary axe has a short period of time that it is “relevant” and that it can be experienced in its most powerful state…

The zulian tiger has been around since the beginning of WoW, and I can go attempt to get it right now… And if I do obtain it, it will still be as relevant and amazing as the first day is was implemented.

Atiesh, it was in Vanilla lol. Was for healers and casters.

And Val’anyr, the healing mace from Ulduar.

Also, Dragon’s Rest, Tarecgosa, a caster staff in Cataclysm.