I like that he stresses that this is unfinished and on the PTR. But he does make good points. Nothing about the changes currently makes Torghast fun. Just more annoying and tedious. Additionally it gear gates it as well.
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That’s just factually incorrect.
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Its not. I saw that bar lowering, and lowering, on Preach’s screen because he wasn’t moving around or doing anything and my heart sank, and I literally felt nauseous. For the love of Azeroth, stop with “speed” being relevant in content.
They somehow took the worst part of Shadowlands and made it worse.
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Please elaborate.
Its my opinion that adding M+ style affixes. No Kiss/Curse Element does not make it more fun. Its still early PTR, but to me at least it doesnt seem like they are making it better.
Additionally. Its Preach’s Opinion, which I agree with. But it is an opinion. It is neither factually incorrect or factually correct. Its an opinion. Some agree. Some Dont. You disagree, but are doing so by trying to stir an argument. Im happy to hear your opinion, and who knows. Maybe your points will help me better formulate my opinion.
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Factually speaking, opinions =/= fact, therefore it can neither be factually correct or incorrect.
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I hate Torghast enough as is. They should have just removed soul ash from it and provided some cosmetics for those interested in it and let the rest of us never touch it again.
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“Have you made this worse so you can sell us on a talent tree to make it less annoying?”
Think that pretty much sums up the state of Blizzard’s creative energy.
To be clear I actually really enjoy Torghast as it is now, believe it or not. But what they’re trying to do with it in 9.1…oh boy, if I think this looks bad, I can only imagine what the people who already don’t care for it are thinking…
i’m thinking it might manage to keep me unsubbed until 9.2, if this is the only content that’s going to be marketed to me as a solo player
No. It’s not.
They don’t make Torghast challenging. It makes it tedious.
Losing 1% health every 60 seconds?
Chance for enemies to randomly gain a spell reflect shield, that could cause you to one shot yourself at random?
Etc.
They literally just add tediousness to Torghast just so they could add the talent trees to alleviate some of the tediousness and make it seem like they’re helping us.
And then there’s the fact there’s a 100% chance the talent trees wont be account wide, so you have to deal with the tediousness on every single character.
Dont even get me started on the fact you get less than 100 Tower Knowledge for a 4-5 star clear of layer 8, when upgrades cost a ton. (The cap on Knowledge is 2 MILLION to give you an idea)
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Unfortunately, I tried it, and as someone who loved Torghast at launch and was really hyped to see the rework, it sucks. Affixes make it a bore. You have to constantly be moving towards the door and killing stuff or your bar depletes. Hell, one combo you can get for affixes is “All non-elite enemies have 50% more health” and “All non-elite enemies do 10% more damage in melee range.” It is horrific.
Truly a place fit for punishing souls. Quite unfortunately though, we are the souls 
Preach showed things that went inline with how I felt.
Just the opposite of what Ion talked about on the interview with the changes/additions so far.
Can’t say I’m surprised.