Nostalgia is dangerous

Yeah exactly WoW sub fee should be around 30 usd a month. Then we could demand a clean game devoid of all micro transactions and expect
Consistent content releases. But right now gamers are pretty cheap as a whole and they are stuck treading water over games we all could be playing right now. I mean Diablo 2 can be played right now.

Oh but Chroesire, don’t you see? Wormeater is convinced that Game development is a zero sum economy and if the games play those old games, we are somehow taking the new ideas away from those poor Billion dollar companies and every other game dev in the world to make new games! :scream: /s

Holy cow it is not a joke y’all prove “Nostalgia is one heck of a drug.”

You just can’t see. I trying to save you from the darkness. Help me help you…

So vagaries then. Idk about you but I have a lot of games on the computer that I play besides WoW. Sounds like a you problem

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You’re certainly doing a bangup bad job of convincing us it’s anything serious, so… :confused:

And honestly, i rather you not be serious, because this whole thread screams anti-gamer here. You wanted there to be less games for gamers to enjoy. :neutral_face:

If you want fight against “the darkness” I think the energy would be better spent on stopping studios from trying to create the next Fortnite, because that is where the real money is, and is what is sucking more air out of the room than the next four things combined.

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I told you for me personally it is a problem.

Gamers are stuck treading water in a pool of nostalgia especially gamers that like the genre of games I enjoy.

Every single game that has been remade was already available to you for years. Let’s move on people. Follow the light come out of this darkness I release you. The power of ch… compels you.

But that means you would have paid 270 dollars + box price for the first patch of shadowlands.

You could get so… so… so many good games on steam during the winter sale with $330 dollars that would probably result in x100 more hours of enjoyable game play.

That’s what’s hard for Blizzard right now. They don’t make much content compared to what the market offers for a similar price.

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…And you think saying this doesn’t undermine the points you’ve made… how exactly? :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

I would hazard a guess that most wouldn’t even need to wait for a winter sale, there’s a ton of old good cheap games on steam that many haven’t played at all.

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Oh trust me I’m fully aware nostalgia has many mutations. But we must start somewhere and even though we are going to fail we must try.

I think you have a better chance at getting gamers to be against microtransactions then Nostalgia. I mean MTX does stifle new ideas. Why make new games when you can just inject the current games with MTX in them?

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I’m not implying that they can’t make a game more fun implementing some new ideas to a old video game, but I meant that the old things bring people back in so they keep reusing them. There are more points to be made that the old stuff was better anyways or maybe people feel that way because they grew up with it too even. Lol

I was thinking of things like Disney live action movies and Ghostbusters. Nothing new really, just throw in a twist and call it new. It’s relying on the imagination of people from the past and their success to bring in the cash.

WoW classic versions are fine but it’s still old content and it’s nice that people enjoy them and want to play them. I was just simply pointing out that our willingness to purchase old things so quickly is probably linked to our fondness of those old stories and experiences and is also probably why we see the same things rereleased over and over. It’s easy money for the entertainment industry.

I guess because I see it that way and don’t have very positive thoughts about the way businesses are run I come to the conclusion that yeah… new ideas are thrown down the drain if the old ones are making the big wigs that already exist even more money. And hey if somebody comes out with something successful then just copy them. Lol

Seems to be the way the world works.

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You can’t do much about the preferences of others.

Maybe it’s the case that the genres you like are preferred by an older generation of gamers? That will be inherently nostalgic.

In many ways the entire concept of an MMO is nostalgic, really. People wouldn’t come up with something like an MMO today. Online and massively multiplayer, yes, but not an MMO. MMO, as a concept, came from the idea of virtual worlds coupled with tabletop RPGs, which were popular concepts in the time when the broadband internet was beginning to get more reach in North America. The entire concept is totally passe now, so online gaming has largely moved on, as you would say, to new concepts and game types that largely appeal to younger players. MMOs, as a whole, are a nostalgic genre, really.

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Don’t surrender to DARKNESS Baridorielor!!

The power Azeroth compels thee. Those games are a relic of the past that is better left to Super Nintendo mini and raspberry pies.

Just play the older games on a smaller screen they will look super dope.

The power Azeroth compels thee…!

Wow is an old game, should people move on from it also?

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Honestly yes even blizzard IMO would admit that but players have way way to much nostalgia invested in WoW so a WoW 2 most likely will never happen because well we gamers will never move on.

Maybe they should make the current games better. Yes nostalgia is a factor, but a lot of people simply like the old game better… So it’s not just the gamers… Developers are being lazy and basically making the same game as every other game, following the same formula that makes them money. After a few years of this trash, all the games start to feel the same. So it’s not just nostalgia. The games were simply better back then in a lot of people’s opinions. Yes, there is something wrong with this situation, but it’s not nostalgia, even though it is a dangerous path for the industry to take in this context. Not much choice for gamers though, when developers aren’t doing anything innovative.

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WoW 2 is nonsense. You are trolling against nostalgia and reskinned games but then turn around and lament not getting WoW 2 which would just be another reboot. No one can even agree what WoW should be, let alone what WoW 2 would be.

If you are truly against nostalgia you would be talking about New World, Ashes of Creation, Core Punk or something else, not WoW 2

When your trying to talk someone away from a ledge you don’t point out all the trouble that will inevitably be on the horizon. I need these new games and WoW content patches to be real good here in the future so let’s just take it slow.