Normal Eyes for Elves

They are not half elves.

Pointy ears =/= half elves.

They also lack other features elves would generally have (less defined muscle mass, facial structures, eye glow.)

They are the culmination of 1000 years of high elves and humans mixing. They are part elf, if you don’t want to use the term “half” thats okay because we have no idea of the percentages. And it is entirely possible that different npc’s will have different percentages.

We only have references to this new kingdom, which I assume we will eventually visit, but it’s entirely likely it will not be in tww but a later expansion.

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Neat premise, actually. So the article calling them half-elves wasn’t exactly wrong.

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Obviously not living near a light magical source and living underground have anything to do with it in a game where magic almost always causes mutations.

Also if they are half elves, where is the other elven features? Elves is more thrn just pointy ears.

Except it is.

They’d probably look weird to me because I’m so used to glowing eyes, for elves especially, in Warcraft but I can see the more traditional, middle fantasy appeal. They’re getting rounded ears in The War Within so why not?

we know where they come from though. These are the original arathi humans from lore. And canonically they were joined by the high elves at that time to teach them magic. This light kingdom is based of that group, lore wise. If they were together for over 1000 years and the descendants now have pointy ears than I draw the conclusion that I do from that.

“Lynxes are commonplace among the Arathi, acting as loyal companions. A bit of local flavor”

This is a line from tww. Guess who else favored lynxes. That’s right the high elves.

I think there is a lot more proof if you look, but like I said our information is somewhat limited.

We know these people have been underground for 15 years, but hail from a light empire across the sea. We know they are originally from Arathor. Which lore wise was the kingdom that first sided with the high elves. Who canonically came down to teach the human’s magic.

I guess we’ll find out more later.

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It annoys me so much that Zandalari have glowing dioda bulbs for eyes. They’d look so much better with normal eyes. The good in-between option would be option that worgen have - where you could see their irises but you could tell that these eyes are glowing as well.

Ah I see your elf didn’t come with the switch. Just tweak the tip of your ear, hear that little click? Okay there you go. Eyes should be dimmer.

We’ll see, I guess. If we really want to talk about how magic affects the biology of races after prolonged exposure, this particular instance of evolution chose a very ironic way to manifest considering the history of the Arathi and elves.

Just seems like you’re vehemently opposed to the very natural conclusion people are drawing for…reasons. Sure, it could be something else, but it’s a bit weird to jump down people’s throats for connecting the dots.

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That’s your reference? WC2?
hahahahaha!

Because a very small population of elves with a dense population of humans is not enough to sustain a “half lineage” and with the game traditionally transforming races due to magic effecting them stands to reason it is more likely the magic and the fact they live undergroung is more likely the reason then inter-marriage.

The elves did not send allot of mages to train the humans which makes the claim “They are all half elves” not beleivable.

There is also a thing called genetics, where people inherits different traits of the ancestory, and not just one part of them. If pointy ears is the only thing, then either they lack imagination, or they don’t know how genetics works. there is also mutation or evolution that naturally can occur when being change the environment, which living underground majorly does.

Also the game has a huge story of magic changing peoples on prolonged exposure.

Honestly, I’d think it’d also speak to a lack of imagination if the only effect of prolonged Light exposure triggering an evolutionary change in the Arathi is that they have slightly longer, elflike ears.

I mean you’re going on these tangents like Blizzard has ever followed the rules of evolutionary biology or, y’know, logic. Most folks are just thinking, “Hey it’s a video game story, and these humans have a long history with elves and now their descendants have pointy ears. Maybe in the internal logic of the story they’re meant to be half-elves.”

I mean, again, maybe you’re right? We literally don’t know. Just seems like you’re a bit overinvested in trying to have a debate about lore we haven’t even seen yet. Does Blizzard have a long committed history to making sense wrt cross species offspring that I don’t know about? They’ve always played pretty fast and loose with the rules there.

Anyway that’s probably it from me, if they turn out to be half-elves I expect them to expand on the history there, and if it turns out to just be Light exposure, I think I’ll just be disappointed in the underwhelming design choice of that development.

I can’t be extra if my eyes aren’t glowing. So no.

Well. Technically I don’t have eyes. But still.

No one said anything about removing anything.
:pouting_cat:

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even better give human females the same body type as blood elves and void elves have that way they look far more attractive and not look like a 40 year old catlady

I think it’d be a bit silly for it to just be light exposer with the history they have. Though theoretically I could see blizzard going with the light exposer bit, and that causing an uproar in the lore youtubers because the elves were right there.

We also have no idea if there aren’t further variance within the people. For all we know we could show up to this “Light empire” and there will be all sorts of things. In fact, if we are correct and the pointy ears are from the comingling than we should at least see some full elves due to their long lifespan.

Speaking of long lifespan

The elves would have had multiple partners throughout their lives because of the long lifespan.

But let’s say you’re correct. and that the pointy ears have nothing to do with intermixing that was possible. If it comes from being underground then I assume they will tell us that in tww, considering they’ve only been underground for 15 years and that would be a fairly big change. (I haven’t seen any indication of this, but hay maybe they will say it)

If it comes from light mutation from the light kingdom, I’ll just have to accept that. But why then did Turalyan not have long ears. He spent forever on another world as a light forged?

In the end its whatever blizzard says.

Personally, I find the intermixing to be far more interesting than magic corruption, but to each their own.

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I’d be fine with this myself, but I kinda doubt it’ll happen. TWW datamining has shown that humans may get pointy ear options, so that may be the closest thing we get.

If the reason the humans have pointy ears is because of intermingling with high elves.(there from the arathi highlands and this fits with the lore) Than it is theoretically possible we see both humans and elves getting each other’s features, to show a type of hybrid.

To be a little more blunt, yeah, I think it’s very ridiculous and not even remotely in keeping with how Light exposure has been treated in the past. The vague notion that magic effects evolutionary changes in Warcraft varies from magic types, and it’s simply absurd from a storytelling perspective to expect people to default to that assumption over the more reasonable one that the intermingling of humans and elves in the lore resulted in some half-elves, which is represented to us by a characteristic of elves on the human model that lets everyone immediately know what’s going on with them.

I was being charitable, but it’s more like they’re upset at the idea of half-elves and taking it out on people who correctly identify them as (very likely) being such.

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There is datamining suggesting rounded elf ears too, but no model for it. Nothing for eyes has been datamined, human or elf, though I suppose that’s a possibility as well.

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