#NoChangesFromNost

So the no-changers want authentic Nostalrius experience - 25 men MC runs, 10k pop and many more. :D

Seriously, by using 1.12 patch and without retuning the content, Blizzard is providing us with an "upgraded" Nostalrius Experience, not an actual vanilla experience...
dragonmaw , i knew it by your guild name that was my home server friend
This is becoming spam at this point. You have several of these already started, not to mention to other couple started from others complaining about 1.12.
Not really, Nost had a lot more than that going on that was different from the true Vanilla version.
OP is trolling, they know what #NoChanges means.
11/04/2018 02:56 AMPosted by Syradra
OP is trolling, they know what #NoChanges means.


I know what no-changes mean. But I feel that no-changers are brutally wrong to be accepting 1.12 patch and not the retuning of the content.
11/04/2018 02:40 AMPosted by Caelle
Not really, Nost had a lot more than that going on that was different from the true Vanilla version.


yeah? enlighten us.
The itemization and talents are main culprits here.

When tanks entered MC, they had no good gear. They had +spirit chests and stuff. That's why the dungeon was hard. Dire Maul was first step into making MC easy.

Blizzard needs to find correct path here. Ban'Thok Sash available at launch means that MC needs to be retuned.
11/04/2018 03:09 AMPosted by Foaminz
11/04/2018 02:40 AMPosted by Caelle
Not really, Nost had a lot more than that going on that was different from the true Vanilla version.


yeah? enlighten us.


If I am understanding him correctly, he is referring to the alterations made in the roll out of patches 1.1-1.12. Nost of course was run off of the 1.12 client, making following this progression a lot harder to cope with.
11/04/2018 03:01 AMPosted by Holylr
11/04/2018 02:56 AMPosted by Syradra
OP is trolling, they know what #NoChanges means.


I know what no-changes mean. But I feel that no-changers are brutally wrong to be accepting 1.12 patch and not the retuning of the content.


What are you asking for? Patch progression or retuning? Because I don't see nochangers shutting down discussions about retuning.
11/04/2018 03:14 AMPosted by Thathotgirl
11/04/2018 03:01 AMPosted by Holylr
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I know what no-changes mean. But I feel that no-changers are brutally wrong to be accepting 1.12 patch and not the retuning of the content.


What are you asking for? Patch progression or retuning? Because I don't see nochangers shutting down discussions about retuning.


I want the original difficulty to be preserved. Patch Progression will be very hard and probably unnecessary. Using 1.12 talents but retuning the content will be best practical way I think.
11/04/2018 03:01 AMPosted by Holylr
11/04/2018 02:56 AMPosted by Syradra
OP is trolling, they know what #NoChanges means.


I know what no-changes mean. But I feel that no-changers are brutally wrong to be accepting 1.12 patch and not the retuning of the content.


1.12 still falls under #NoChanges

Retuning content that weren't numbers in Vanilla is not.
11/04/2018 03:24 AMPosted by Syradra
11/04/2018 03:01 AMPosted by Holylr
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I know what no-changes mean. But I feel that no-changers are brutally wrong to be accepting 1.12 patch and not the retuning of the content.


1.12 still falls under #NoChanges

Retuning content that weren't numbers in Vanilla is not.


It's like saying: "I want to return to school, that was the best era" and then start from the 12th grade. Yes, 12th grade is still school, but it's not an authentic school experience because it omits previous years...
11/04/2018 03:28 AMPosted by Holylr
11/04/2018 03:24 AMPosted by Syradra
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1.12 still falls under #NoChanges

Retuning content that weren't numbers in Vanilla is not.


It's like saying: "I want to return to school, that was the best era" and then start from the 12th grade. Yes, 12th grade is still school, but it's not an authentic school experience because it omits previous years...


Which is irrelevant as it is still part of the experience.
11/04/2018 03:41 AMPosted by Syradra
11/04/2018 03:28 AMPosted by Holylr
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It's like saying: "I want to return to school, that was the best era" and then start from the 12th grade. Yes, 12th grade is still school, but it's not an authentic school experience because it omits previous years...


Which is irrelevant as it is still part of the experience.


Ok, so we pay money for Blizzard to deliever 1/12 of the original experience? And you are ok with it?
11/04/2018 03:48 AMPosted by Holylr
11/04/2018 03:41 AMPosted by Syradra
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Which is irrelevant as it is still part of the experience.


Ok, so we pay money for Blizzard to deliever 1/12 of the original experience? And you are ok with it?


You do realize if they did a patch progression, it would still end and remain at 1.12 right?
11/04/2018 03:49 AMPosted by Syradra
11/04/2018 03:48 AMPosted by Holylr
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Ok, so we pay money for Blizzard to deliever 1/12 of the original experience? And you are ok with it?


You do realize if they did a patch progression, it would still end and remain at 1.12 right?


We are paying for the journey right? Or not? Yes, in 2 years we will reach 1.12, so? That undermines the journey?
11/04/2018 03:52 AMPosted by Holylr
11/04/2018 03:49 AMPosted by Syradra
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You do realize if they did a patch progression, it would still end and remain at 1.12 right?


We are paying for the journey right? Or not? Yes, in 2 years we will reach 1.12, so? That undermines the journey?


You're not paying for the journey, you're paying to play WoW Classic or BFA. No matter how you rationalize it, all the info we had before Blizzcon pointed towards a Static Patch, they even stated that they wanted to use it as that was the most complete version of Vanilla WoW.

To whine about what patch is being used is pointless as it was already decided a long time ago.
11/04/2018 03:57 AMPosted by Syradra
11/04/2018 03:52 AMPosted by Holylr
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We are paying for the journey right? Or not? Yes, in 2 years we will reach 1.12, so? That undermines the journey?


You're not paying for the journey, you're paying to play WoW Classic or BFA. No matter how you rationalize it, all the info we had before Blizzcon pointed towards a Static Patch, they even stated that they wanted to use it as that was the most complete version of Vanilla WoW.

To whine about what patch is being used is pointless as it was already decided a long time ago.


And why are they not releasing every raid instantly? They will even have AQ40 event after a few months, which goes against what you said.
11/04/2018 03:59 AMPosted by Holylr
11/04/2018 03:57 AMPosted by Syradra
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You're not paying for the journey, you're paying to play WoW Classic or BFA. No matter how you rationalize it, all the info we had before Blizzcon pointed towards a Static Patch, they even stated that they wanted to use it as that was the most complete version of Vanilla WoW.

To whine about what patch is being used is pointless as it was already decided a long time ago.


And why are they not releasing every raid instantly? They will even have AQ40 event after a few months, which goes against what you said.


There is a difference between Patch Progression and Content Progression.