#nochanges crowd is ruining the game

lol clearly you’ve never played original TBC, Because this current TBC isnt how BC was suppose to be.

the #nochanges have no clue how the game was originally played, and are picking and choosing new systems that they like that was put their by the player base:

  • boosting - paying a mage/pally to boost you from lvl 5-70 wasn’t apart of the orginal BC.
  • gold buying - the Rampant gold buying, literally every other person is buying gold.
  • The hour long wait it takes to find a tank/healer for something is a group breaker.
  • having to respec mid instance to down some of the raid bosses, then back to your original spec.
  • the new no premades rule broke guilds that love to pvp, and they had to go around the system and make discords or cheese the system so they all could end up in the same BG.

Blizzard cant fix any of those problems without the #nochanges people loosing their minds about something being “like retail” but yet pick and choose the thing thats killing off the player base.

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losing.

Seriously though, let’s not pretend that players are actually gate keeping. Blizzard has made tons of stupid changes to TBC regardless of player input.

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LOL, says the #nochanges people are responsible for the game failing. Then goes on to list all the changes made to TBC.

You can’t buy this kind of comedy. :rofl:

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check my title. Hand of A’dal. what’s up.

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I’m not “nochanges”. I’m just anti dual spec.

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Blizzard doesn’t implement anything based on player sentiment. They do what they want because they think they’re right.

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Fixed that for you. :sunglasses:

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they kinda run the show around here, yes. their name on the web page and launcher and all.

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  • yes it was just in an older and less efficient form
  • buying gold has been around since vanilla it has become more prevalent now
  • waiting forever for tanks has always been a thing
  • my guild never made us respec but this is the new min/max player created issue
  • definitely not one of their better changes IMO
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Accepting the game as it was = ruining the game?

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Let me clear this up for you: the people picking and choosing things to add are NOT the #nochanges crowd. They are entitled Retail players that Blizz lured in with the Boosts. They don’t want the TBC experience. They never did. And now they’re here since Shadowlands sucks, but they’re so oblivious as to why that they’re campaigning to tread the same path Retail did once before.

Abandoning #nochanges is what ruined this game, as many of us said all along. Because #somechanges will not only not please everyone, it won’t please anyone. Each individual person has their own definition of the ‘ideal TBC experience’. So no one will ever be satisfied with that approach. What Blizz could and should have done is just stick to authenticity. Unlike the ‘better’ or ‘worse’ arguments for changes, there is no argument to authenticity. That is purely objective. Blizzard has one simple response to any complaint given by the playerbase: “This is TBC. This is what you wanted.” End of discussion.

Instead now we’ve got this mutated concoction of semi-authenticity and haphazard amalgamation of seemingly inconsistent and random changes. What’s the result? Do players look happy? Are the forums a place of positivity? Of course not. It’s just the same as the Retail forum now. The floodgates are open. Players whining about this, whining about that. Saying Blizz needs to change this, remove that, add this. It was utterly obvious this would happen when Blizz opened Pandora’s Box.

So don’t blame the #nochangers. If Blizz had listened to them at least we’d have an authentic product with a clear design philosophy. But for the most part they’re gone now…back to private servers. Or playing private servers for the first time (like me) since Blizz abandoned Classic.

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When do you have to respec mid raid? I’m pro dual spec, but I havnt had that be an issue ever

The #NoChanges (or any arbitrarily chosen group of wow) players have no authority to do anything.

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Hey, how’s it goin?

It’s seems to be the OPs roundabout way of saying the game is broken and needs a redesign in order to be playable.

Which then begs the question - who pays a subscription to play a game they know is unplayably broken on the off chance that they can convince the development team to implement their custom “fix” suggestions? Are there that few other games around that people will play a game they clearly don’t like and spend $15 for the privilege?

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You clearly don’t know what no changes is and you sure as he’ll didn’t play TBC. Tank and healer shortage was always a thing back then. Nice try larping.

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The worst of it is, it has gone exactly the way many level headed players predicted. Utterly predictable. It’s a car crash in slow motion going the same predictable path as the original WOW.

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the problem is the retail refugees who WANT retail, they are just being disingenuous in their approach, they’ll lie and worm out of any attempt to be pinned down on their shilling for retail features, its just a giant slippery slope to them.

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The time you spend complaining you could just go and enjoy TBC. it will be over in a year or so.

so the solution is to sell their own boosts for IRL $ that take even less effort. Gotcha.

sounds like blizzard should ban gold buyers and sellers :open_mouth:

cant make people tank who dont want to tank. cant make people want to do your heroic that they dont need any gear out of.

? the only example i can see this for is nightbane and that would be one person for one boss. hardly a huge problem.

so blizzard “fixed” a problem but you don’t like their fix…
which makes your final sentence a little weird.

:thinking:

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