Dad reporting in what’s the issue
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Because when well over half the specs are viable, strong, and appropriately represented then there is no rush to make changes.
There really isnt any class/spec that doesnt have a strong comp atm and is “suffering”
(Except unholy dk, theyre kinda shafted tbh).
Absolutely true, but blizzard has never done micro patches for buffs/nerfs. Tbh they really shouldnt based off of two weeks of data when people really gravitate to fotm stuff as well instead of playing around.
This is very very very different.
Ret was stronger than any spec in the history of the game and there is no credible argument against that. You played with a ret or you lost the game. No spec is even close to that strong now. Further, that was at the END of the season and changed the entire trajectory of r1/glad pushes.
No cr/mmr matter whatsoever for the first month, so competitive integrity isnt compromised.
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Can’t they make weekly PvP adjustments?
It’s kinda lazy to leave specs OP for a month or so.
Maybe they think it’ll confuse the PvPers too much if they make weekly changes.
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I’ve just been waiting to play instead of stepping into this nonsense. My friends list is completely dead. Queue times (in shuffle) are as high now as they were at the end of season 1, typically the most dead part of a season minus the last week.
I struggle to understand how you can possibly believe there is no rush.
So? They never do anything until they do it. Blizzard stubbornly clinging to bad systems isn’t some gotcha that you think it is. They’re wrong a lot of times. Classic is the best example of that.
Yes, they should. Two weeks of data is plenty to make incremental balance changes.
And then they should balance it again later. And continue to do so for the entire season. Frequent, small changes is the only way to get the game in a playable state with how easy it is for people to fotm.
Except it’s not. The ret players, just like people who support your argument, don’t actually care about players having fun. I repeat: It is a 100% unacceptable stance to take to say “it’s totally fine if a large amount of people hate the season until everyone is geared.”
Yes. They can and they should. But enough people like above will defend poor systems out of stockholm syndrome. I assume that’s why, anyway. The amount of times I read (paraphrased) “but that’s just how it is, and that’s how it’s always been, so deal with it” is hilarious. As if Blizzard is completely incapable of being better in any way.
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This right here just discredits the entirety of your argument, man.
You make some very good points about blizzard having the ability to do better, and they absolutely can, but your logic is severely lacking.
If you cant see the difference between the 10.0.7 ret paladin changes and the start of a season where everything is different, then you dont have a leg to stand on.
Haha, ok. If it makes you feel better to discredit my arguments instead of responding to them, you go for it.
I dont have to, man. You did it yourself.
Every class/spec is strong and viable with appropriate comps atm. Literally nothing is stopping anyone from Qing up and being successful.
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Again, if it makes you feel better to do this instead of speaking to the points that I made then you go for it. It’s certainly the easier route, so good job.
I feel like the list of overtuned specs is fairly long. Perhaps the issue is less that they are overtuned and others are undertuned?
What’s the list of bad specs?
2 DK specs, arcane, devoker, WW, ret(?), Arms (??), Idk. I haven’t heard of them being in any recent lists of overtuned. I mean, if everything is overtuned, then technically the game IS balanced, right? Maybe not healthy, but it would be a balanced field.
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acquisition of Activision Blizzard by Microsoft can’t come soon enough!
Microsoft will tune and incentive the game design resources responsible for mental health of dedicated wow streamers and for the state of pvp since 10.0.7
Early season nerfs is how unholy got to be in its current state. Probably best if blizzard is very careful with changes until everyone is fully geared. For anyone saying “buff/nerf now then change it in a month if needed” that’s just not realistic. Blizzard is not going to flippantly yo-yo balance changes like that. It makes it appear like they have no idea what they’re doing and confuses players (not everyone reads every patch note and watches for blue posts).
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When the alternative is “let everything be broken for 2 months and it’ll be fine eventually”, that should be unacceptable to you. Not sure why it isn’t.
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I don’t like that we have to wait for the gearing process to play out either and it’s one of the reasons I liked templates. However that’s the current situation we have to work with and I don’t see any good alternative solution. You make sweeping changes now so everything is better in the short term, or you wait and make changes later that will be better for the long term. Again, they’re just never going to do the buff/nerf now then revert in 1-2 months approach.
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But they should. Making the game playable now and also later should be their goal. There are pvp knobs they can turn so it doesn’t affect any other part of the game and they should use them.
Of course they’re never going to because it’s more work and nobody cares about pvp anyway. Still, they should.
Weren’t we getting weekly or bi-weekly PvP balance changes last season?
Or was that only because of the AWC?
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We were getting more frequent changes yes, but like I said those early changes left unholy in its current state.
Blizzard could have kept making changes.
Not sure why it’s either early changes or late changes. Those are the only choices?
If we’re stuck with late changes, then it’s better to reroll to OP specs early in the season. At worst, they’ll be balanced later in the season.
Is it not though? Like honestly asking, which spec literally can’t succeed at the moment?
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Not about being able to succeed, most of which involves abusing a comp that has at least one of the over-tuned specs, it’s about how miserable the gameplay is atm.
Can you be more specific because if unhappy people is the metric, this game hasn’t been fun in the last 19 years.