No spirit stat?

I just.freakin.realized.
THERES NO SPIRIT STAT??? I was hoarding spirit items at level 35 as a hunter maybe for hp regen ( I guess it wouldn’t work on focus, forgot we don’t have mana on hunter anymore) NO SPIRIT STAT??? How does hp or mana regen work even in Cata?? What’s goin ON! :sweat_smile:

uh?? spirit is mostly a healer stat right now for mp5. Although it has some legacy effects of hp5 , but most the time it isn’t worth it.

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Only really for warriors, and only until around 20 (25) ish… where you get some very nice out of combat health regen that minimizes downtime between pulls while questing.

For Cata, this doesn’t apply. I think spirit has been normalized, and it doesn’t really matter since you have heirlooms and it’s so easy to level anyway.

But in Era, warrior has the highest spirit based health regen of any class, by a very large amount at something like a (spirit * 0.8) + 6 compared to other classes that are more like (spirit * 0.25) + 6 for hunters and even worse for most other classes.

:woman_shrugging:

But I moused over spirit and it says “ you have no value from this stat” on my character sheet…. It doesn’t say hp5 or mp5 or anything though…

Do you know the coefficient for druids? I wanted to make a spirit druid set too for classic vanilla not cata.

Spirit does not affect HP5 at all in Cata and beyond. Instead, every class regens a fixed 1% Max HP every tick out of combat (Trolls regen 1.1% thanks to their racial).

On your Hunter, Spirit indeed does absolutely nothing, because Hunters now use Focus instead of Mana.

This is untrue. Spirit does not affect HP5 at all in Cata. It only increases mana regen out of combat as a base stat.

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Spirit is a healer or hybrid caster stat.

For hybrids they have a talent that makes it so 100% of their spirit gets applied as hit.

The information on that is actually incorrect, the data was gathered in 1.9 ish… and it was correct for that period, but Rogue = Warrior >> everyone lese in that respect (Classic Era)

Since they’re using the 1.12 values, tho I have not tested recently and we could be using TBC values like the TBC out of combat timer and TBC game rules they slipped in with 1.14 / 1.15.

IMO we need 1.13 back for Era.

As for Cata I thought they nerfed the beans out of health regen via spirit (with 4.X)

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Is there a way to increase that 1% hp regen? Or theres just no way.

None, it’s fixed. Trolls get 10% more regen as their racial, but otherwise no.

However this 1% per tick is far more than Spirit ever provided at max level, even in Wrath.

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Sorry its super hard to get this info ( I’ve SCOURED GOOGLE for days.) do you know how it works in combat or is it 1% per tick out of combat?

Only out of combat, as it always has been. Only trolls regenerate health in combat thanks to their racial, and they only regenerate 10% of their normal regen in combat (1.1x regen, so 0.11% per tick while in combat at max level).

Everyone else gets 0% regen in combat.

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Really appreciate your knowledge and help! I will be creating a troll next for this! Ty so much!