True… but that was mostely in relation to “mandatory” daily makework quests. Not due to any mechanics or story, like with attunements in Classic / TBC. They dropped the ball with the release of Cata for the old playerbase and never really picked it back up.
I mean “instant” gratification for things like heirloom gear, epics/legendaries from quests for everyone and so on. It became more like “Here is your toon, now go start the endgame content right away”
This logic makes zero sense. Why would someone who main-specs as a tank be worried that some dude who can now resspec on the fly for a quicker dungeon group is going to take his spot… ?? The second guys’ groups are more likely to fail and people will turn to vetting better tanks anyways (if they don’t just quit in frustration).
I mean you MIGHT have some of that, but the overwhelming likely truth is that the people focusing on one role are better at that role than the people trying to juggle multiple of them.
You guys will rationalize random QoL stuff any way you can lol.
lol this is either ignorant or trolling
soda didnt give a flying fart and DEFINITELY wasnt a “loud voice campaigning for vanilla servers” lmao
you wild
…what do you call running the same dungeon over and over again to hit Revered, and then again and again and again and again and again and again to finally hit Exalted?
I mean seriously, we hadn’t had quest chain access to dungeons since TBC. The only place you needed “attunement” for was ONE person to activate Malygos, and you could just slap on a tabard and grind whatever you wanted for reputation. Wrath was the most laid back and accessible of the early expansions by far.
Heirlooms were only available to alts, meaning you had done the grind and then some to even acquire the heirlooms themselves. Heirlooms are also a Wrath thing.
Epics from quests were constrained to raid drops and raid quests, just like Vanilla.
Legendaries from quests were literally intertwined with the story to an insane degree in MoP. It was the equivalent of “attunement” in which you could go to the raids sure, but people weren’t pleased if you didn’t have the meta gem and the cloak and so forth. Legendary quests were also incredibly grindy themselves like the Wrath weapons, and also story driven, rather than just some random drop you may never see. It isn’t like we didn’t see hundreds of Thunderfuries on every server, and I don’t even bat an eye at Atiesh’s being shown off as there are so many.
So again… what are you talking about?
sorry i had to
No idea what that’s even supposed to mean.
bingo! i have forum buzzword bingo!
You want to relive it at it was then… go to a private server. It’s been upgrade since. You may not like the changes, some do. Just because the vocal majority on here say it’s bad… doesn’t make it true… the vast majority of the player base, don’t come on the forums.
the vast majority of the player base, don’t come on the forums.
other than this being completely unfounded lol, the vast majority of players would ask for free flying epic mounts and level 70 with maxed rep on creation
sometimes a game designer’s job is to say “no” to what the players want
go back to ruining your own game
Noting a lack of intelligence is only relevant if the intelligence of the poster is part of the argument. If my comment were fallacious, then pointing out the fallacy is sufficient. Commenting on my personal intelligence is a non sequitur. Whether or not I’m offended is irrelevant.
For you to argue that the slippery slope is not fallacious in this case you need to show a causal chain from event to event which you haven’t done. For you to claim that insulting intelligence is not fallacious you must show how my intelligence directly relates to the argument presented. Just because an informal fallacy has the word informal in its title doesn’t mean it’s automatically a logically correct form of argument. Indeed, the cases here are classic examples of the informal fallacies being fallacious.
Ruin what game? TBC? I play both… it’s ruined to YOU.
Always with the over the top analogy… you going to supply any type of argument? You also don’t have to believe the player-base and forum comment… you can’t disprove it.
Ruin what game? TBC? I play both… it’s ruined to YOU.
gotta hand it to retail players
only they could see:
classic fans: i like TBC, TBC is great, thank god they made a server to replicate TBC, TBC was perfect just the way it was
retail fans: i hate TBC, TBC would have been better with x, y, and z, they should change all the idiotic decisions from the era it’s replicating
and think they’re the ones in the right lol
Same can be said about you classic weirdos… “its only right without changes! rawr my no changes!”
That’s just not even close to reality… come back now, you might wanna try and be realistic.
Same can be said about you classic weirdos… “its only right without changes! rawr my no changes!”
i didn’t get mocked and spammed with “wall of no” while begging and showing support for classic servers since 2009 so some person that hates classic can tell me “the project to replicate an era shouldn’t replicate an era because i don’t like things i had to do in that era”
yet here i am. same attitudes, same people as 2009, different angle.
Did you even play the original classis/tbc release @Sadist?
If not, you don’t even know what you’re talking about.
i’m sure he did, but i can guarantee he wasn’t campaigning and actively showing support for it over the years to eventually get them to come around and make it.
now that it’s here, he wants to track his muddy boots of what we escaped from all over the game we love and fought for
Well, maybe you should start with you… like, I dunno, crazy idea… maybe not attacking everyone that doesn’t agree with you? Also your history? Cool, don’t care.
I feel you though, I didn’t want much changes… I’m not even fighting for dual spec, I don’t care, I’d like it, but it doesn’t make me feel worse about the game… people just aren’t gonna get me to heal, unless they wanna pay for both changes. Only thing I fought for… was boosts, because long story short… vanilla wasn’t fun.
I did.
Only thing I fought for… was boosts
worse tbh
Couldn’t care less about what you think on boosts. I wanted it, vanilla sucked, the end.
Honestly, I don’t know. I just like to try and sound smarter than I really am. I just think changes would lead to more changes in this case, and I don’t want more changes.
I’m a simple man. I want to kill KJ in a manner as close as possible to vanilla TBC as possible. If dual spec became a thing I wouldn’t have a meltdown, and I’d still play TBC while happily using dual spec lol. I just think it’s moving TBC is the wrong direction.
The rest is just me being bored and wanting to argue on the internet. I really do love and respect you <3