Everyone is a liar except for him, and then we get gems like these.
He thinks that a fee every time we mount up is the same thing as a fee every time we respec.
Then he calls other people “liars” 
and denies being a “Karen”, it’s comedy at this point.
And you think dual spec is the same thing as retail specs.
His analogy is far more accurate than your inherent misunderstanding of dual spec. Ironically requiring a mount fee would actually be more inline with retail specs as it takes a reagent to actually do what you think it does.
But it is good for the community! More people will play if they don’t feel like they have to grind gold to play how they want right?
That’s the argument your using for dual spec being good for the community. Your claim is people stop playing because they don’t want to farm gold to experience other aspects of the game at maximum optimization. Epic flying helps maximize their efficiency in doing things because it reduces travel time.
I’m applying your same reasoning for adding dual spec to epic flying being free, clearly we should now make epic flying free!
OK, let’s change the proce of epic flying to 1g then because people don’t like to grind gold and would rather stop playing the game than grind gold right? Because they feel like grinding the gold is to much work to be 100% optimized for all forms of content!
But I thought the anti dual spec crowd liked gold sinks?
I know, right? Why would they contradict themselves?
What a mystery this is…
I’m applying YOUR logic for adding dual spec to epic flying, did you really miss that part of my most recent posts?
So you agree they should both be one time fees?
No, I’m applying the logic of it being popular and “good” for the community that all of you are using to try and justify dual spec and showing how that doesn’t work for game design.
I don’t think dual spec should be added, nor do I think epic flying should be 1g. I was using your justifications of adding dual spec to show you why you’re wrong.
Epic flying being 1g removes the accomplishment of it, removes a massive gold sink, and makes people play less because they have even less reason to not raid log with one of the grinds being removed.
It was an attempt to show you a comparison using your “logic” of “I want, therefore I should have it”.
Okay but given that many reasons have been given why dual spec would be good, why would it be bad? Keep in mind #nochanges is no longer a valid argument per blizzard.
Reasons have been give that are not nochanges, but you ignore them I’m not going to repeat it for the 100th time.
And those reasons have been discussed and shown to be BS.
“things that do not require fixing”
bruh, why do you think dual spec was added in patch 3.1? Because people realized in TBC that being confined to 1 spec sucks.
That’s up to Blizzard.
No, this isn’t my claim at all. My position is derived directly from GC’s position in WotLK: the inconvenience of respeccing did not create shades of deterrence as intended by the ramping costs, but rather split the community into a majority chunk (never respec) and a minority chunk (respec regardless). As such Dual Spec provides a means of avoiding that now pointless barrier which simultaneously band-aids the respec failure while giving people a nice luxury to seek out, for a gold cost, at max level.
It isn’t about maximizing optimization.
It isn’t even about avoiding gold loss.
It is simply the irritation of having to do it at all, which was enough for Devs in '07 to make the change.
This would be interesting if you were… but you keep having to move my argument from what I’m saying to what you want me to say. That’s dishonest.
As an aside, I find it funny that Zipzo is now going to respond to me and derail threads with insults and attacks via other people. He can’t just man up and talk to me directly, he has to obliquely reference me from behind an ignore wall.
which is basically the devs saying they aren’t making an authentic classic version but a watered down version for the retail crowd. that doesn’t refute the argument that one version or the other is better it just establishes the vision the devs have for the classic servers.
So ignore the tbc devs saying they didn’t want multi spec, listen to the dev that said he wanted dual spec, but ignore when he later stated he regretted adding it… got it, you like to pick and chose what information you want to listen to. Not bais at all…
+1. no to dual spec
Man, you sure do like putting words that people never said into their mouths.
More or less yes.
Listen to the reasons why it was added for sure.
He had a lot to say and made references to spec swapping and talent changes that were present in MoP and onward.
This.
This all you?