No seasonal affix in Season 2 + level 7 affix changes

Saw this interview on WOWhead.

TLDR: they’re not doing a seasonal affix and will overhaul the level 7 affixes (Quaking, Grievous, Volcanic, Storming, Explosive)

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Terrible. Everyone loves seasonal affix. Awakened and Encrypted were bangers.

This is a lazy fix. Thundering sucks, but that doesn’t mean they should kill the seasonal.

Also, they seriously need to completely revamp Halls of Infusion starting area. There is way too much going on, and all the CC on the tank is absurd.

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I do not like seasonal affixes.

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Seasonal affixes don’t add anything and really all it does is distract the developers because instead of focusing on dungeon balance and affix combinations they have to spend weeks adjusting the seasonal affix based on feedback.

The conversation should really be around “are putting these two affixes together?” really going to make the tank or healer happy?

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Hard disagree with the removal of seasonal affixes they were fun and made the planning at a higher level around routes more enjoyable. Blizzard missed the mark with thundering it was a terrible affix that just didn’t work well. Seasonal’s like Prideful, Awakened, Encrypted, Shrouded were all bangers and should be what the team aims for. The issues around M+ revolve around the affixes that overly punish tanks/healers into the point they literally just skip that week of playing. The team should be focusing on how to design affixes that don’t make entire subsections of the playerbase quit playing that week and less on scapegoating seasonal affixes as if they were the problem when they never were.

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Yep agreed, I came here to post this very same thing. I love the seasonal affixes, or at least have since they made them fun at the end of BFA and onwards. It makes the dungeons more interesting, gives them longevity, and adds variety to the routes.

Just because Thundering was a step in the wrong direction for many of us doesn’t mean we wanted the entire system to be pulled. This is an unnecessary and disappointing overreaction on Blizzard’s part.

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100% this, its another one of those typical blizzard moves that clearly didn’t come from listening to the community. Nobody at the high end wanted seasonals gone just nothing like thundering again cause it was a terrible affix to play around.

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I disagree with the removal of seasonal affixes. I am glad they are finally taking a look at the affixes tho. But to remove something a lot of people enjoyed about each season is kind of a weird fix. Thundering sucked major balls but didn’t play well with other affixes and mechanics. But that doesn’t mean I wanted them to nuke the idea of seasonal affixes.

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yeah, people like mixing up the routes.

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The seasonal affixes are kiss/curse. They actually (when designed well) help the group.

Now it’s going to be 100% negative, given that the row 7 affixes continue to be all downside.

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The only way I see how the removal of seasonal affixes being a good thing is if somehow they remade the level 7 affixes to be some form of kiss/curse. Purely negative affixes combined with the newer dungeon design feels like it is gonna leave a bad aftertaste.

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Thundering is the worst seasonal affix I’ve dealt with so far because it punishes you with a group wipe if people don’t clear.

Prideful is the second worst because it was just an add that spawned that did a pulsing AOE aura and it was the healers problem to deal with. Once you killed it you got a +30% damage buff for 1 minute so you had to plan routes around getting them before bosses.

Tormented and Encrypted just added mini bosses to the dungeons so you can get passive +5% damage boosts and the healer got infinite mana. Literally the time spent on the mini bosses washed out the damage boosts.

So having a M+ season not balanced around passive damage buffs will overall be good because you won’t feel week until you made it past a checkpoint and killed the 2nd or 3rd mini boss.

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No seasonal affix seems lame.

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Completely agreed!

I quite liked Prideful specifically because it shaped the route. I wasn’t a fan of how messing up on the prideful effectively meant a dead key at the higher end, but it was still fun to play when everything went right. Pulling the prideful to a mega pack and then blowing everything up was memorable :slight_smile:

This wasn’t all bad, but you’re right in that it ended up being fairly static. Still, in my group, we shifted the powers we chose depending on the dungeon and week, and that made for interesting gameplay. There could have been more variety in the powers offered though to make it a more compelling choice instead of almost always “Well just take this one.”


They can’t all be stellar, but I do think all of them after BfA Season 1 in particular were decent and changed up the experience. When I think about a M+ season without the +10 affix, my interest is actually waning… because it’s the same old thing. In fact, I was already dreading season 2 because it’s going to be 2 months of terrible dungeon tuning all over again, but I held out hope because maybe Blizzard would learn from Thundering and make a cool seasonal again. Without that, maybe I’ll just take a break until they figure out tuning…

It’s going to be funny when they neuter the affixes even more than they’ve already done, and then instead ramp scaling harder and the forums are here crying about how they can’t even finish the key because tyrannical bosses are walls for their team.

Mythic+ is already a joke for the gear it gives.

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The thing is that the dungeons are balanced around the seasonsal affixes. Thundering literally says in its description that enemies have 5% more health.

Thundering is only active for 5-10s every 60s. Literally the 5% health bonus washes it out or cuts the damage bonus you get in half.

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Everyone likes 3 of the seasonal affixes and the reaping one is arguable. Their hit ratio is very very low with these affixes.

There is no disagreement here that Thundering is not a good seasonal affix. Also, I went and checked, Thundering is the only seasonal that included a change to mob health like this, so I don’t think it’s correct to say that dungeons are balanced around them.

Nobody likes Thundering, but there have been a lot of fun affixes in the past. Here’s a list of them, if you sort by level, it’s easier to pick out the seasonal ones.

no seasonal affix? what in the?

they better add in some kiss/curse affixes to replace the old ones imo :grimacing:

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I’m hoping as well. I’d rather see some interesting Torghast stuff.

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