The guy is a troll. I mean he is on a level 11 troll. It should have been obvious. Shame on everyone for assuming he was arguing in good faith.
The fact he mentioned Limits prot warrior yet didn’t mention what limits prot warrior said makes it clear as day. He was hoping that no one would actually use due dilligence and look into his comments.
He says that as a world first raider.
Max has answered the question as well, saying that warrior is fine, but it’s not the best tank. They bring it for the tools it provides, not because it’s the best option.
I didn’t point to anything else. All I stated was that, they had two warriors in the raid for more than half. Ergo, it’s not just battleshout warrior was brought for.
Anything else you’re saying, you’re reading into yourself. I did not say these things, or imply otherwise.
I’ve provided evidence.
You disagreeing with it, is not the same as not providing it.
Lightee: “guys warrior sucks im just a utility simp dont play this”
Derez: "Guys, Limit uses a prot warrior. (please don’t look into this)
I did not say this.
Why are you misquoting me. Anyone can see I did not say this.
I responded to someone saying, warriors are only brought to a raid to provide battleshout, specifically in top end progression. I showed that this is not the case. Having more than one in the raid goes directly against only having one for battleshout.
Kindly stop placing words in my mouth, that did not come from it.
It’s not strong. Lol.
It’s not about “middle of the pack” It’s about why would I take an Arms over an UH DK?
You wouldn’t.
You said Limit uses a Prot warrior to dispute the argument that warriors are only brought for utility yet the only reason Lightee used a prot warrior for Limit was for utility. He said it himself.
You were intentionally misleading.
I did not do this. Jesus Christ.
Stop interpreting what I said, and read the literal words.
If a warrior is only brought for battle shout, there only needs to be one. It was stated that the class is only brought for battle shout. I responded, to that statement, with limit using two. I.E., more than just shout.
That is the beginning, the middle, and the end.
And yet they do.
You were arguing that warriors weren’t brought for utility and then cited Limit bringing a prot warrior to prove your point. You were exposed and are now backpedaling.
Derez (forum troll) “Warriors are fine.”
Lightee (world first warrior) “Warriors suck. Don’t play this [class].”
Once a troll is exposed, it’s time to move on. You spend all day here for weeks. You’re a clown. Go find something better to do than troll every single conversation about balance.
That is not correct. Construed information is not evidence or fact nor opinion as using a splice of information to prove your arguments invalidates the credibility of your opinion. Not to mention, you rarely source anything and rather just blatantly tell people they’re wrong, which yoyre entitled to also be as wrong as you are mostly
I’m flabbergasted that you’re somehow confused.
And the personal insults, always a nice touch.
Exposed for something I did not say or do. Brilliant.
Why does one person linking a WCL statistic count as evidence, but when I do so, you claim it’s invalid.
I’ve explained this. In fact I’ve explained it to you directly three times now.
Your inability to read is not my inability to communicate.
Actually no you haven’t said that to me and go ahead and show me the pudding
No offense dude but you are extrapolating wildly. Derez said none of the things you’re saying he said to discredit him.
The statement was, “a raid only takes one warrior for battle shout”
Derez pointed out that limit had more than one.
Ere go, warriors are not only brought for battle shout.
End of story, no other context or assumptions to be made. He said what he meant.
Did Derez run over your dog or something? You seem hell bent on assuming everything he brings forth is malicious and filled with contempt. Why attack him.
If you’re so sure he’s wrong. Google some info, show me links. You’re new to the forums, that’s fine, welcome. But how about showing us where he’s wrong, because over time he’s proven he doesn’t give info unless it’s already researched and well reasoned.
Nope he didn’t run over my dog but has been running one over my dogs (yes you warriors). I havent been on the forums for some years till this week. If wants to comment on every warrior post then hell have to eat the flack that comes with it when he says something thats incorrect, and he mostly has been. I cant understand where you dont see he has a major bias as is proof with the incongruity of all of hisvsaid facts…
Have you looked at the links hes provoded it proves the tale and thats where i take offense. I dont appreciate someone that attacks everyone in the communities opinions as inaccuracies when he backs up his claims with a house of cards.
Again i dont know him, im new to the forums, and the impression hes given me with this weeks posts are beyond unimpressive, its abhorrent. His statements are not robotic theyre emotional (as are mine) and if hed like to disagree with someone its no problem either but to do so to everyone over the same opinions on how warriors are just not okay at the moment… Hes stated his opniom countless times amd should let pther people of the community shsre their input without his negativity and fabrications as he has shared them exuberantly. We know wyere he stands let others discuss witgout disruption and misinformation
You are very charged up about this dude.
Disagreeing isn’t attacking. Going point by point, disagreeing isn’t attacking.
The only attacking here are the people dog-piling Derez.
Take a step back and check your own behavior before you decide it’s your life’s mission to police another’s.
If you say so but saying thsts not true, thats nkt correct, or youre wrong is not accurate portrayal of goong point by point its trollimv my friend.
The problem I’m having here is that so many of you are here, upset that warriors are bad. Someone comes in with a different opinion, maybe some evidence to show it’s not as bad as you might think, and instead of being excited, you call them a liar and get more angry.
If you’re looking for a pity party that is one thing. But how about we look for the spots we do succeed in and hope that our weaker aspects get addressed. Because it’s not derez making this environment toxic. It’s the influx of angry players looking to lash out at someone because they can’t scream at a dev.
Warriors are not feeling good right now.
I’m going to be honest, as a pleb myself, I’m looking at your raid and dungeon progression and taking your commentary seriously on that basis.
A lot of people are talking BS and that’s well and good. But we really do need more commentary from people who are actually walking the walk so the rest of us can step aside and listen.
Blizzard is going to do what they’re going to do on their timeframe. It’s important we know how to deal with the hand we’re dealt.
Have you tried them in Pvp? They’re monstrous. Highly recommended