No movitivation to run instances b/c RNG

I've found that I am running very few instances this expac because of rng.

I want to know my effort will be rewarded at least somehow. If that means collecting valour points to eventually spend on something, that is just fine. It was a very successful method in Wrath.

But the idea of running something again and again and again and come away empty handed? No thanks.
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Instances just don't seem to drop much.

Used to be greys and greens and maybe some blues and 1-2 purple.

Now it's like.. maybe a blue or a purple, maybe. Maybe and probably nothing.
10/30/2018 11:26 AMPosted by Snowfox
Instances just don't seem to drop much.

Used to be greys and greens and maybe some blues and 1-2 purple.

Now it's like.. maybe a blue or a purple, maybe. Maybe and probably nothing.


*almost always nothing
ftfy
I just don't think Blizz is listening. They made a game they like to play and that is all there is to it.

I'm certain that isn't true. It's just how it seems to me.
pretty much i dont do mythics because of raider io and how toxic it is and running heroics hoping for a purple upgrade.......neh.
10/30/2018 11:38 AMPosted by Trallyne
I just don't think Blizz is listening. They made a game they like to play and that is all there is to it.

I'm certain that isn't true. It's just how it seems to me.


The issue seems to be, they don’t play the game or they would realize what people have been pointing out since the beta.
10/30/2018 11:24 AMPosted by Trallyne
I've found that I am running very few instances this expac because of rng.

I want to know my effort will be rewarded at least somehow. If that means collecting valour points to eventually spend on something, that is just fine. It was a very successful method in Wrath.

But the idea of running something again and again and again and come away empty handed? No thanks.

Player time is totally disrespected in this xpac. Rewards are awful and so much time wasted to get nothing. Layered RNG and Personal Loot are a complete disaster.
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Thats honestly whats killing this exp for me. There is no finish line so to speak. Every goal is arbitrary and could take anywhere from one run to untold amounts of runs. I miss when things is how had a definitive end point, like this item was the item you got, no war or titan forging, just this is it, good job for getting it! you can rest now.
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INB4 that crowd comes along saying RNG is RNG.

I agree. I miss grinding out Valour and knowing I had a piece of gear ahead of me in the near future. This current system is trash and has totally burned me out.
Nothing says “Lame” harder than grinding out a 40 minute mythic plus trash mosh pit only to get nothing but a 0.05% increase in AP.
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I think drops in 5-mans should work something like this: 100% chance for 1 person to get loot from a boss. 50% for a second person to get loot. 25% for a 3rd person to get loot. 12.5% chance for a 4th person to get loot.
Heroic cache for weekly.....you sure you don't want your shiny loot box :)

It might titanforge you know ....bwahahaha- playerbase 2018
10/30/2018 01:16 PMPosted by Panamos
Nothing says “Lame” harder than grinding out a 40 minute mythic plus trash mosh pit only to get nothing but a 0.05% increase in AP.


Still a great 60% loot to player ratio.

How about putting in 400 wipes on a raid boss to get 35g on the kill?

And I still think both are fine. Guaranteed loot for everyone every boss or dungeon would make things obsolete very quickly.
10/30/2018 06:11 PMPosted by Zoey
I think drops in 5-mans should work something like this: 100% chance for 1 person to get loot from a boss. 50% for a second person to get loot. 25% for a 3rd person to get loot. 12.5% chance for a 4th person to get loot.


That's a huge downgrade to the current system? IIRC a on time M+ guarantees 3 pieces of gear at least, while a not on time one guarantees 2.
10/30/2018 06:26 PMPosted by Argorwal
10/30/2018 01:16 PMPosted by Panamos
Nothing says “Lame” harder than grinding out a 40 minute mythic plus trash mosh pit only to get nothing but a 0.05% increase in AP.


Still a great 60% loot to player ratio.

How about putting in 400 wipes on a raid boss to get 35g on the kill?

And I still think both are fine. Guaranteed loot for everyone every boss or dungeon would make things obsolete very quickly.


Yeah, except it's not fun when you're on your 6th M+ with 0 gear while the same dude got gear 5 times already.

"RNG is RNG", I agree. But killing ridiculously long to kill and hard to kill trash packs in M+ to spend like 1min on a boss (which should be the hard part of the dungeon) and eventually getting nothing at the end while taking 40 minutes of your time is just depressing.

At least in Legion you got some sort of satisfying amounts of AP. And dungeons didn't typically last 40 minutes because some trash felt like it just HAD to target your healer for enough damage to kill him 5 times through defensives.
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I dont know what the drop rate is but i killed 12 mythic dungeon bosses in a row and got only AP. Then my weekly chest has given my 6 useless bracers in a row. My 370 cache has given me 5 useless chest pieces in a row. Im still stuck with two 355 normal uldir rings after 30 something heroic boss kills and countless amount of M+ bosses. Thanks blizzard for sucking will to play right out of me.
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Yes, you actually have to be good if you want good gear. Sorry not sorry
Don't worry soon you will be able to play classic then really learn how RNG can skip you over and outright ignore you.
10/30/2018 07:23 PMPosted by Elynos
Yes, you actually have to be good if you want good gear. Sorry not sorry


Wow. Reported.
10/30/2018 07:20 PMPosted by Cryolite
I dont know what the drop rate is but i killed 12 mythic dungeon bosses in a row and got only AP. Then my weekly chest has given my 6 useless bracers in a row. My 370 cache has given me 5 useless chest pieces in a row. Im still stuck with two 355 normal uldir rings after 30 something heroic boss kills and countless amount of M+ bosses. Thanks blizzard for sucking will to play right out of me.


Your gear seems to be quite on par with your content.

Your armory shows you clearing most of heroic Uldir and clearing keys in the 6-7 range.

Your gear is mostly heroic Uldir and mythic+6 gear.

As for rings, only 3 rings drop in Uldir. They drop from Mother, Zek'voz, and Mythrax.

You have 6 heroic Mother kills, 2 Zek'voz kils, and 0 Mythrax kills. So based on this data not getting a ring is actually pretty common based on your kill rate.