Can you extend on why you think one section of a playerbase has more right to content on a videogame than the other?
The kind of effort that makes you go, “Wa sugoi!!”
the gap has actually increased on pvp servers(where it matters), you are factually incorrect
but have fun when they release warmode in a couple phases
nobody is seething, you should be forced to have zero honor bgs if all you want is to queue bgs, and then have a seperate queue that you’ll get every 3 or so queues for your regularly scheduled honor game 
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Umm.
Why does Horde get more access to world boss loot? More horde.
Why does Horde have bonuses and access to shards from world objectives 90% of the time? More horde.
Why is it much harder to get content started as alliance due to summoning stones being camped into oblivion? More horde.
Why is it harder to find and gather resources as alliance? More horde.
Why is it harder to level and complete quests as alliance? More horde.
Why does horde have long pvp queues? MORE HORDE!
I picked alliance for shorter queues. Don’t bother claiming any horde didn’t know they were going to be overpopulated. Faction balance should have been addressed. That may have shortened queues. Horde should get shorter queues, but nothing near alliance. If you want this further “extended” go ahead and read any other topic… if you can sift through all the horde player “i like because fast, not care bout alliance” feedback.
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Fix’d. /10char
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you keep saying this like it’ll magically turn into truth if enough idiots hear it and start to believe it. bgs take in from all servers, not just pvp servers.
maybe you should go cry to your alliance friends to grow some balls and fight, rather than dance on goldshire tables naked… silly ole troll.
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nobody cares what bgs take in bro, the queue issue is a non-issue because if you think that “overall pop is even so this and that” you’re absolutely delusional, most pve realm players do not queue for pvp at ALL so idk what screws are loose up in your thick noggin but you need to realize what the real issue is and it’s faction imbalance on pvp realms
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wow, talk about inflammatory and offensive… i feel personally attacked by this troll who follows me to multiple threads.
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lol imagine being so adamant to gatekeep part of the game from players when your own faction doesn’t even do that part of the game.
If they did, the queue wouldn’t be this bad.
seethe that Horde can play the game.
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I am really confused. How does enabling HvH, that allows people who want to play the game, actually play the game, have anything to do with the alliance?
Aside from the main argument of #nochanges – why would any Alliance player even care about something they aren’t interested in?
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Because it further negatively affects what they are interested in (literally every other aspect of the game) by tipping the faction balance even further to the horde side because alliance who like to do both PvE and PvP will just go horde once there isn’t a major downside.
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I’ve seen you in other threads. Those threads have gone over why this bothers alliance ad nauseam. It’s not because they care whether or not Horde gets to play BGs.
But you keep on trolling threads dude, like the digital Karen you are cause that’s what you simpletons do when you’re not getting your way. Alliance gave reasons, you come back with “Alliance just doesn’t want Horde to play”.
Game is dead anyway, most of Blizzard is as well.
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Re-read what you wrote outloud. It doesn’t have any continuity in logic. The amount of assumptions and correlations in that train of thought sounds like a conspiracy theorist.
How does HvH hurt Alliance?
Ok… but how?
And how does tipping the faction balance affect Alliance in any way? Even faster queues for alliance now?
And why will they magically all just decide to go Horde?
You got a lot of assumptions. This isn’t that complicated.
Horde want to be able to play the game they pay for. $15 a month to wait 20-45 mins to play isn’t how entertainment in 2021 works.
It’s also a pretty big assumption to think that every Alliance player will now magically go Horde, level 1-70 over again, rebuild relationships, find guilds, all because HvH is enabled.
For a moment, think that people play Horde because they like it, and want to just play the game? It makes no sense unless from a role playing perspective what faction you play in this game. It never has, and it never will.
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I just love that implication.
The sheer idea that Alliance raiders aren’t Horde is because of checks notes Horde pvp queus?
So people interested in pve, are worried about what’s happening with the pvp community?
The idea that there is so many swaths of Alliance raiders will just switch has no substance based on the current problem, which only exists because the Alliance already do not pvp in the first place.
But now they’ll just up and leave because of Horde pvp?
Olympic level of gymnastics to reach that point.
It’s just a trash tier cope argument to gatekeep players from content that has no bearing on most of the Alliance to begin with, because if it did, the Alliance wouldn’t have instant queues, a bragging point for them, and the Horde wouldn’t have these long absurd queues, the problem in question.
It just makes no sense to me. There is literally nothing the Alliance loses, they gain an incentive to pvp as well, and when the populations shift a bit in LK from all these “sweaty players who only want a racial advantage we hate them” go to the Alliance for said advantage, they will accept them in droves and the exact player they hate, they will parade as saviors of the Alliance population and then want FvF so that way they can maintain those players by letting them do Alliance V Alliance bgs.
I’ll support AvA when that time comes, but I want all these mongs to remember how they treated Horde players now, and expect most Horde to not be like me when that time comes in a year and a half.
Alliance players on practically every PvP server pay $15 a month to have open world farms, summoning stones, and world objectives with tangible benefits (Bosses, Spirit Towers, Halaa) dominated by the other faction.
Further incentivizing people to play said dominant faction by removing the ONE pain point there is to playing it, without offering something major to the other side, is the final nail in the coffin for the other faction.
People WILL faction change, mass exodus to alliance only servers or quit altogether, and the alliance, and consequently the game, will die out faster than it already is.
If you can’t, or refuse to recognize the other issues tied to HvH queues, and faction populations in general, there isn’t a conversation to be had here.
insert “Think Mark, Think!” meme here
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seethe that you have long queues LOL, imagine being so adamant about playing a certain faction when you dont even care about what faction you play on, only for whatever is the most op or most popular, if only you and other selfish players didn’t choose that path, the queues wouldn’t be so bad
have fun with your awful war mode pve style “pvp” realms and a completely dead open world game because you and other just want to sit in a queue all day like it’s league of legends and force mass transfers instead of growing a pair and fixing the issue yourselves
whatever you say, mr 99% faction “pvp” server stuck in endless warmode layers who never actually does anything open world
what are you even talking about, troll?
on retail, all of my toons play with warmode on- yeah, i’m one of the few that still believes pvp servers should still be a thing.
on classic, my horde’s on the same 60/40 ally server you’re on- i don’t see why you cry about “horde overpopulation” and “open world pvp” so much, especially with me… although i think it’s because i remember killing you in open world before, which is why you name looked familiar from the start.