No more HvH

I have him on ignore, but I just can’t help going out of my way to make him angry.

If he’s going to steal my oxygen, then I want something out of it.

Him seething is my way of making him pay me back for the oxygen he’s taking from us.

I would agree with this generally, and after thinking about it… it probably affects lower skilled players much more, hence the anger. At the top, people understand and know how to play around things, and every edge counts. At the bottom percentiles, people will scream and cry “OP” because they don’t have the knowledge nor effort to learn how to play around it… hence why they are there. These are the crowds that are mostly complaining about racials being OP – in their bracket, they really are OP.

Game’s dying.

While you guys use made up evidence, others move on.

You could have been part of the solution, but you’re just part of the problem.

Horde vs Horde … lol

Foundation of what TBC was Blizz says … hahaha

How pathetic is this game right now that they use masks in BG games?

Not even worth returning if they have real solutions now cause Blizz is now willing to change anything on a whim.

You can keep your grade school debaters Blizz!

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What would be a real solution to you?

PS: common sense usually doesn’t require citations

Smart move. Complains about “factual evidence” and then fails to even define what that is, or where we’d get it from.

I’m not a fan of that take.

I used to play Smite, a lot of Smite.

A god like Loki (If you know you know) pre rework was “OP”. He wasn’t. He was almost never seen in the pro scene or any rank really above Gold outside of a troll throw pick.

Casuals called him OP though because they didn’t know how to play around it, but he wasn’t OP, at all. He was just a pub stomp god.

I view racials the same way, and while I wouldn’t put Will of the Forsaken in that status like Loki, but I also don’t take players complaining about Will in bgs serious from the start, and unless you’re at a respectable rating, idc what some 1200 has to say either.

You talking about me or that random dwarf who’s first message was him ignoring everything I said in a different thread, and then a second message separate from the first screaming about how Blizzard should force reroll me to Alliance.

I asked him the same question regard what “factual evidence” is yet no response. He’s looking to troll.

The dwarf troll. Got called out and hid.

I thought this way before too. Having played games such as Smite/Dota2/LoL and climbing between divisions, along with the public data that these companies release, it’s easy to see how they balance.

Each game has their own style of balancing and I don’t have enough info to comment on what would be best for wow. Just an observation that a hero/champ in low ELO is busted but a niche / cheese pick at the highest tournament tier. Most games balance around just that, tournament and highest tier gameplay.

Issue is, WoW TBC seems to be in maintenance mode; there probably aren’t resources nor a budget to have active changes. Along with that, the competitive PvP scene is non-existent, with little to no support from Blizzard. PvP has always been a “sidegame” content wise for majority of WoW’s history, and the trolls come out in full measure when discussing anything related to PvP.

To top things off, the PvP community is so small now that Blizzard can easily afford to not deal with any of the issues brought forth and focus their efforts somewhere else that would generate more revenue. PvPer pays a $15 month sub to play the game, PvEr spends loads at cash shops and are repeat buyers of “content.”

PvPers and PvP related things have always been on the lowest prio. I don’t expect that to change, it doesn’t make much sense $$ wise. I do appreciate people who still come to the forums to express their ideas, and you bring up a lot of good + valid points.

Sure.

Dwindling sub numbers re recent polls; almost all major streamers and content creators leaving the game (and speaking out about why they have done so); recent allegations regarding the law/female employees; and a huge distaste in the mouth of Alliance players (you know… one of the two factions in the game?)…

If you really think this game is in a good state then… send me some of that copium!

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you lot talk alot for a dying faction. Listen to me boy, we are getting those instant queues. So if you don’t like HvH bg’s you better get to thinking up a better solution that blizzard might actually implement.

Otherwise you can scream, you can pout, you can cry. but this is happening.

Nekogirl, you are just a Horde whimp that doesn’t want faction balanced to be addressed, no matter what we say you will just say “Nah that won’t work!” despite the fact that it would work.

Everyone knows free Horde to Alliance faction transfers would be a massive step to helping balance factions, the incentive to have insta queues far outweighs any BS Horde-Centric excuse you come up with.

Again, you Horde whimps seem to enjoy being the overpopulated faction because of all the perks you get in WPvP and the illusion of superiority it gives you.

You would think more Horde “PvPrs” would be championing faction balance so we could have balanced WPvP and decent queue times for both factions but the fact is alot of Horde players just want to feel secure knowing they can’t be killed because wPvP is a numbers game, not a skill game.

I bet you don’t even do arena and if you do your rating is terrible, you need faction imbalance so you can pretend you are a good player while you dunk on pve specced lowbies trying to level.

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Blizzard doesn’t need to do anything. When queues get long enough Horde players will either re-roll or quit. It’s a self correcting problem as long as Blizzard doesn’t interfere.

Uh merge servers?

We all appreciate your valued and very constructive feedback. I think Blizzard can make a lot of great changes based on your post.

Oh yeah he’s 100% worthless.

For pvp, I agree with this. It’s supposed to be competitive, and those who devote their life to it probably know more about it than I do. It sucks that pvp is dying. I loved bgs the most, and I remember being 10/11/12, getting a class up to level 10 and instantly going to go queue up in WSG. Do I do anything? Probably not, I was level 10 against 19 twinks, but it was just fun. It’s hard to see the first thing I fell in love with in wow be in this state.

As a horde player who had to transfer off a 90% Alliance server (westfall) I care little about your plight. Your post history shows you are just an entitled whiner who has literally nothing important to say.

Ah yes the latest buzz word twitter tweenos use when they have been shown to have no ground to stand on.

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Do you want it to die?

Bring BACK HvH.

Wait you played on a pve server. Go dragon slay stop pvping

This thread and the other 10 in the same discussion are about what? Oh right horde crying and asking for HvH back again. Nice try greenskin.

it’s funny how you use this blatant lie as “proof” or truth when “2 week old” data posted a few days ago shows otherwise- the gap between horde and alliance is actually SMALLER than months ago.

what excuse next, troll?