Please make new Epic Battlegrounds. No more half a$$ brawls. Epic battlegrounds could save the game if it had a form of deterministic progression like classic wow rep.
No other game has massive battlegrounds the way wow does, its untapped potential. Its frustrating how blizzard wont commit to making new pvp content, it handicaps the game.
They are only serving one audience. Mythic+ and Arena metric are flawed indicators because its the only progression path, your forced to it. Arena isnt gonna save pvp, its battlegrounds. Add a couple new epic bgs, add a rep grind with decent rewards. Epic bgs dont need gimmicks like all the Ashran power ups, i do think the summons are cool tho. I feel like Blizzard is only serving narrow sliver of the possible audience. They need to hire pvp minded developers. A solid Pvp map is evergreen, while pve content has a shelf life.
Is Arena and Mythic+ fun? Some times when your in the mood for it. Imagine content you can do all the time, that isnt so intense, that dousnt require asmuch focus, that still gives meaningful rewards.
MMOs are meant for PVP, . Pvers arent gonna do Arena, Pvers dont know what they want. Show them that pvp is the Ultimate end game.
The best thing they can do with epics is get rid of winter grasp and Ashren. That would make epics enjoyable
Ashran is lowkey the best epic, ofcourse u can have really bad time in all of them. I think wintergrasp is worse, the steamrolls are boring even if ur winning
Their game designers focus more on LORE. Do you guys care that much about the LORE of the game? LORE also just focuses on quests lines, so PVE.
They can change wintergrasp to make it better.
Mirror the map, 2 castle and 6 towers in the middle.
I present, the new Wintergrasp!
https://i.imgur.com/mrocRUI.png
The story is important, i think its about balance. pvp use to be alot bigger part of the game, and the story is kinda bland. Dragonflight feels like a filler anime episode or something
The LORE is crap since it doesnât trickle into PVP. Did you ever get any cool quest lines inside battlegrounds? Itâs been 20.
Zero resources, time and effort should be put into a format of PvP that is so easily sabotaged by itâs own playerbase.
Most of us donât enjoy epic BGs. We just do them because it is the quickest way to get a full set of honor gear. Once that set is acquired, I never queue for an epic BG again. Premades ruined them.
Another issue with epic bgs is people leave in droves if the first objective or two is not won. This means you either stay in there for the almost guaranteed loss or take the deserter debuff. More often than not, itâs quicker to take the deserter debuff.
That is what you call poor game design.
This actually looks dope! In Wrath Wintergraps was 120 man. Might be fun with Hanger type gunship
At this point they might as well scrap the epic battleground system and start over again. Itâs been left to rot for too long.
Large scale pvp is cool, but this company canât/wonât do it.
They should ditch all instanced pvp in this game and make a new continent devoted to pvp. Once you step foot on the continent your pvp flag is enabled. The continent could be a 'slimmed down" version of what Ashes of Creation is doing. Make the continent change dynamically based on player decisions and outcomes.
If one faction starts to outnumber the other, give the weaker faction more bonuses to how fast they can build and conquer objectives on the island. That doesnât mean give them a ton more direct power to their abilities. And the greater a faction outnumbers the otherside, the more resources theyâll need to hold what they conquer. This will prevent them from pwning the map as it becomes increasingly costly to own more things. No need to boost stats and other nonsense for the lower pop faction to make it work. That just ruins pvp.
No thanks. Rest of it sounds like the idea they had with Ashran but it failed miserably.
Are you kidding me? Ashran was typical Blizzard trying to mix both pvp and pve together and failing miserably. The continent would have none of that. Thatâs like saying Ashes of Creation is just going to be one big Ashran epic bgâŠ
/boggle
I just donât see blizz devoting resources to an entire âislandâ for pvp. They barely look our way as is.
We can have it all, they dont have to ditch instanced pvp. Instanced pvp is important, phase 2 of classic wow was PEAK on balanced servers, if they added anti griefing mechanics it would have been a different experience for alot of players, But even when the whole world was a bg somthing was missing, its just a just different kinda game play in bgs more controlled.
Alot of premades latley in epic bg for somereason I think that why some of yall negative about epics but thats not the norm and it will change as the population increases for next expansion hype
Actually, the more I think about my idea the more I donât think it will work because of how stealth is designed in this game. There is no downside to being stealthed which means everyone and their uncle will have a âstealtherâ alt or main on the continent.
No hangar or air ship, it would be the same cata/demo/siege!
Itâs good to propose ideas, but Iâm going to have to vehemently disagree with you. The vast majority of MMOs have large scale PVP (GW, ESO, New World) and this game mode always becomes quickly irrelevant, repetitive or feeds into toxicity. What WOW has uniquely, is a really amazing Arena concept combined with the most fluid mechanics that has allowed PVP to at very worse exist if not thrive for over 17 years. That limits gaming the system.
I took part in the first NA Emperor on ESO, and quickly after, we all quit. Same for GW2. Same for Lineage. Same as original Ashran. For all the doom, the fact that Wow has gotten this far is pretty amazing (17 years, 34 seasons of Arena), and itâs largely in part to a unique game mode (GW2 is comparable of course). Thereâs a reason why all the Ashran heroes are named after Arena players.
Add, get rid of sync queues as well.
Better yet , just get rid of epics and randoms since that is all there is in there are sync queuers.