So maybe instead of continuing to ruin legitimate gold farms, TRY BANNING THE BOTS
Banning the gold buyers and making a spectacle out of them is a better way to deal with this issue.
The real problem is the fact that selling gold and characters is a working business model because there is a demand.
Cut the demand and they’ll go ruin another game.
Bots are fun to watch.
I think that whenever people talk about gold issues or banning bots they don’t really understand the problem.
The problem isn’t bots and gold. It’s lack of resources that are farm able in the real world. There is too much competition for farming. Most of them aren’t bots. They’re just ordinary people. Bots mostly farm dungeons using exploits and guaranteed drops.
The big elephant in the room is consumable prices. There is very high demand for consumables on mega servers, but the supply simply doesn’t match the demand. Bots actually make this better. Without bots the cost of consumables would be even greater.
Found your problem.
Mega servers shouldn’t even be a thing.
Blizzard got lazy and put retail populations on VANILLA maps. Of course there isn’t enough resources to go around.
Layering is a bandaid, and its seeping.
My first MMO was Ragnarok Online, and the private server community boomed because the official NA servers were so completely infested with bots the game was borderline unplayable. Certain areas were totally locked down (Byalan Island 2, Glast Heim Graveyard, someone will remember these).
Some people started releasing bots with built-in sabotage commands that other players could exploit. You could whisper them and give them direct commands.
On the private servers that were basically made solely to play a cheat-free experience, the admins would record their bot identification (Teleporting them, whispering them with no response, etc), and after the ban, they would post that, along with the IP’s, login info, and any personal information gathered from the cheater so that the players could attempt to doxx or DDOS them in retaliation. The early 2000’s on the internet was great .
^^^ This guy gets it…
There is not a problem with gold farmers. The problem lies in the fact that some items like Terecone herb for example have beyond horrible respawn rate. I got on a few hours ago soon as the server was up and spent an hour in Terekkor forest (even the back side where Nagrand borderes the zone and more) and only managed to get 10 freaking cones, despite not a soul in sight… Thats not caused by gold farmers, its Blizzards fault for not putting in enough nodes for the crap. Even if there was 5 people constantly farming none stop, the respawn rate should be high enough that an average player just passing through should be able to grab at least 20 in 30 mins or so…
Ive been saying this pretty much since week 1 and nothing
Breaking the gold farms and banning anyone buying gold and/or farming services should work quite well.
But, as you can see, they give gold buyers a slap on the wrist (3 day suspension.)
Why?
Because they know these people have money to burn. They want to keep them for future shop releases.
It would work very well at killing what is left of WOW, since the game already has very few subs and that would remove another relatively large chunk.
I don’t think that’s accurate.
Doubtful. Anyone who quits because they can’t break the rules can quit. Good riddance.
What would be accurate for a 3 day ban of buying gold?
What about the people getting permabanned for farming Strat? How is that any different.
Public spectacle. I like it. They could put medieval stocks in a central area in one of the major cities. In order to regain full access to their account, they have to spend like 48 hours logged on, locked up in the stocks naked, unable to move. Put barrels of rotten vegetables nearby, so everyone can come by and jeer at them and throw crap at them.
It’s pretty hilarious that there was a thread recently where people claimed that there were no problems at all gathering ore and herbs in this game.
and then they boot a new account and within 30 days they are back
According to these guys, you are all lying about bots taking up all the ore and herbs.
I flew in to Shat the other day and seen 5 druids stacked on top of each other with names like qry, qty, wsd, asd and zxc… I mean come on, at least be smart enough to name them something not so freaking obvious… Clicked Report x5…
I dont have a problem with gold farmers, but botting… Oh heck no… I hate botters with a passion…
This reeks of the typical “Multiboxers are good for consumable prices” retailers deal with. And it’s wrong for several reasons.
Gold Farmers are selling players gold. This means gold has no real value to someone who buys gold which drives gold prices up because the cost is irrelevant. Most people I hear talk about buying gold buy in small increments which will cover their consumables for a while, then they just buy more.
Secondly as you just outlined they are farming instances. A lot of them raw gold farm, inevitably they are also running herbalists, miners, skinners, etc to pick up mats to sell, but a lot of their farming endeavors have been simply raw gold farms.
Thirdly, albeit not directly related to bots, whose fault is it that we have limited resources? Blizzard’s. They gave us mega servers from Classic launch by allowing for far bigger servers than they were designed for and the situation has gotten worse over time.
Probably one of the best things they could be doing for managing this is removing layers on mega servers and giving away free xfers to select servers. They definitely need to find a way to break up the mega servers somehow, but I doubt they are ever going to bother. At this point WoTLK will go live where only the remaining mega servers will survive and that’ll be the end of it.
Botting is synonymous with gold farmers.
You don’t actually think there’s people sitting behind their computer gold farming in this day and age do you? Because they’re all bots, regardless of whether they’re in a dungeon or in the outdoors.
Regardless if though you’re not on a mega server like Mankrik or Benediction or Faerlina you are on a rather sizeable server for what TBC allowed back in the day which directly corresponds with what farming issues you would be having.
I found an Ally mage and a Horde mage at Skettis camping one of the Forest Rager spawn spots. They seemed to be in league with each other as they would work together on the giants. Another group of Ally killed the Horde mage at one point, so I messaged him and asked if he wanted help killing them. He never responded, just came over and gave me 3 conjured water and 3 conjured croissant. Bots?