I don’t think you want to read what I wrote. Nor do I care, however you are seriously interested in defeating my opinion and calling it insulting, when it’s actually positive. You’d be surprised at what people are capable of at any age.
This right here.
Also this.
Basically, as a 41 yo myself, its less about age, and more about not wanting to deal with elitist A-holes. I could, but I have better things to do with my time than deal with drama. But now that Delves are a viable way to earn gear, i feel at peace with the world (of warcraft).
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a little extreme don’t you think?
“I have a hard time playin mythic because (whatever his reasons were with age and buying stuff)”
you - stop being a baby, I lost 120 lbs in rl and my 80 yr old dead teacher was a pvp lord in '94! You’re bringing everybody down!
How is that remotely helpful or on point?
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A big part of life is learning to accept limitations in spite of your best efforts to the contrary, whether they’re ones imposed by others or the kind we place on ourselves. Maybe M+ in TWW is out of your reach, OP, and that’s fine. You don’t have to keep up, just like you don’t have to gear out to near-max ilvl. If you really want it, you’ll make time and put in the effort, but it’ll come at a price you may not want to pay.
spot on, cheers 40+ 
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I think it sounds rather uplifting to hear an 80 year old can be a pvp lord compared to the OP basically saying he’s too old to change for wow, or his preferred game mode.
100% agreed!!
I support OP but also know the reality of all the progression lifestyle. OP does need to get a plan and just do it.
Or just don’t do it if it means foregoing real life things.
Yeah, you’ll no longer have a sense of in-game “accomplishment” from having a high IO or gear score. However, if giving up on that means more time spent with friends and family, vacations, and/or other hobbies that have tangible rewards, then for god’s sake don’t choose WoW.
Just saying this is a big win! Great work. How long did it take?
This price is new to this season is my biggest complaint. My schedule is great but limited. Seasons past my schedule didn’t really affect my gear progression. I’ll get AOTC, KSH and portals and unsub for the season. This is the only way blizz will pay attention to these awkward choices they make.
I think the issue is that there are at least 2 broad categories of player in WOW today:
1 - Grinders - usually very competent at game mechanics etc. Feel that the game is a personal challenge of some sort and measure their worth by ‘beating’ the game. The ends (more loot and higher ilvl) justify the means. Probably younger and more competitive and happier to put up with all sorts of crap if it means they get a reward. This was the original WOW philosophy.
2 - Players - just want to enjoy a relaxing and rewarding experience in game with little to no pressure or toxicity from others but still having some challenge and a sense of achievement. Probably older with slower reflexes and willingness to put up with frustrating and unrewarding grinding etc. See WOW as simply a good way to spend some spare time. Undoubtedly some/most Players were 'grinders in years gone by.
Increasingly, Blizzard is finding it harder to make both sets of players happy with the same content. Delves is one of the new game elements they are trying out in an effort to provide ‘player-type’ content while M+ is increasingly aimed at hard core ‘grinders’.
However, the game has many elements that still reflect the grinder heritage - examples include time-gating and complexity of crafting system, last season’s change to m+ levels, increasingly complex rotations, ridiculous number of currencies etc.
As a result, many players are feeling increasingly that the game is abandoning them, and I believe Blizzard will start to lose lots of subs if they do not address this issue more fully. Delves is a good start but it is only that.
No, I’m not suggesting people quit or that the game is unplayable, simply that the subscription base is changing/getting older and maybe the game should reflect that if it wants to remain a successful MMO!
If you don’t have a constructive response to this topic then please feel free to ignore it, we have enough ‘gitgud’ grinders out there as it is.
lol this game is basically a Gen X refuge. Lots of us old timers in this game.
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I didn’t read into it, your words were clear and I think you went overboard - maybe dial it back.
Also, as much as I don’t like revealing my personal life:
I survived childhood Brain Cancer - should have been a vegetable or dead with a less than 30% chance of survival.
I moved out of my family home at 15 to begin a radio career, went to Northwestern University and graduated with a Communications degree
Continued my radio career while in College, worked in 3 top 8 us markets and others, pre satellite radio garbage.
Worked for cbs radio, then audacy
suffered two full strokes but still walk, game, think, write, work
now write and voice for radio and television as a freelancer at age 54.
autocorrect sucks
All of this with no help from a low income family.
- none of that has to do with anything OP wrote
I did defeat your position
I know what people can do.
Some people get arthritis quite badly and have to choose what to use their sore joints on. Hands, neck, back: All these can profoundly affect your ability to play and how long you can play. And before anybody brings up that one old person they know who is elite? I said SOME people – old or young – have limitations.
But the other part is that age 35–65 is usually when you have your prime earning years and work a lot, maybe have kids who take a lot of your time, maybe have a spouse who doesn’t live in Azeroth, lol. It just gets way harder to schedule gaming time.
(And one other thing. Some of us really, really don’t want to spend our “fun” time with rage-y, adolescent-minded, socially offensive schmucks. At some point you just lose patience with that stuff. For me it was when my own adolescents were both safely launched. Love them dearly but don’t want to put up with that again.)
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Where did I say I found it insulting?
My turn
The TLDR, you may change your tune about a lot of things in 10 years.
Sorry if that upset you.
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they were talking to me. I got this
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I suppose that’s when you retire and start roleplaying on MG then.
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OMG I want a spouse in Azeroth! Course my wife would kill me.
I came here to pass time while maintenance. What a gross miscalculation, my bad
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I’m in the same boat. Family, children, career, etc. Granted, I have more free time than most people in my position by virtue of having the resources to hire housekeepers/staff and a nanny/minder for my youngest kids, but even so the gearing time investment in TWW is much longer. Long enough, in any case, that I don’t think I can really “finish” my main and move on another character.
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It took me about a year and a half. I walked two miles a day and followed a lifting regiment and stuck to 1600 calories a day. It was super hard at first, but the journey was worth it. I got to learn a lot and meet tons of new people in the process. Hardest part was getting over the gym anxiety and kind of worrying you would get judged, but my gym was very positive and helpful.
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