buddy there’s a 70+ yr old grandma that pushes high keys & mythic raids (quazii’s interview) you are not too old.
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If you aren’t going to do M+ then why do you NEED max ilvl gear?
Just get the best you can get and have some fun with the other 99% of content.
Skip M+ 9 and higher and mythic raiding.
Get your 626 gear and have fun AT THAT ilvl.
If you aren’t pushing past M9 you wont ever notice it.
World content isn’t going to slow you down. I can beat nearly everything walking around with under 20m health at 580.
So YOU WANT 636 gear but you DONT NEED it because you wont be doing the extreme content that it was made to handle.
I’m not doing those high keys. I couldn’t care less if my gear is 10 ilvl below the high end M+ gear. 626 is 30 ilvl higher than my highest ilvl toon right now. Guess what. I don’t have any problems anywhere in the game at 596 and you wont have any problems as 626 when you get there.
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Happy Birthday!
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lol! “almost 40” oooh, make me shudder. OP Is 40+, are you saying ppl 80+ are out there knocking it down?? so you saying you lost weight and that’s your flex? Holy crap, pups like you…
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No offense but I don’t think you’re playing the game right if you depend on tokens for anything. But you do you.
That comp is laughable, she’s an outlier.
editing to clarify that I’m not stating that OP is ‘right’, just focusing on your reply
I did a lot of M+ in BfA, then left in SL (disliked the great vault random gearing).
I’m trying WW, but I also found the bar much, much higher. Perhaps it just takes me much longer to learn every pull, every turn, every skill - even with DBM helping - than others? I have serious time constraints due to job and family, so there’s that.
But, I try to frame it differently for myself - I -like- challenges, so this is my challenge. I will take just one dungeon and run it until I am good at it (I am a tank). Then I will continue on. It may take me much much longer than others, but hey, I’ll have fun the whole time (I think??) haha.
However, I -am- concerned about how few people are playing. When I tried to find a dungeon this morning, literally NONE were listed. Absolutely nobody was doing M+ or M0, at all. That was shocking. If they made the bar too high, it will cause people to stop playing, and that will kill M+, deader than a doornail. I expect massive nerfs soon.
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First time since Legion to be honest where I dipped my toes into Mythic+ this season on my other chars and was like “Nope, water is too cold”. Sure, I can just dive in and succumb to the freezing cold water and get used to it after swimming around, but, that mental block of feeling the bite of the cold you can’t shake off which is the same feeling as the current Mythic+ stint which is frustrating.
Then I found out how much less frustrating Delves were when I climbed from Tier 1 through Tier 8 (I really don’t see a point going past T8 in regards for gear or GV since T8-T11 are the same). I can solo T8’s on all of my 600+ characters (UDK, MM/BM Hunter, Demo Lock and Fury Warrior) but even soloing get’s a bit boring. I dunno, I like aspects of group play with Delves and it’s actually a fun experience. I’ve really never been angry or even experienced toxicity with Delve grouping, because it’s not meant to be sweaty or high ego’d players raging when you miss a mob or forget to burn a patch of Nerubian Webbing or whatever. And I think that what sets players apart from Mythic+ and Delves. The sweat content vs the casual content, and yea, if you’re Mythic+ RIO is 2k+ by end of week 1 after M+ opened, you’re sweating to get 2k with timed +9’s and timed/failed +10’s just to attain 2k RIO.
For a first time in a long time running Mythic+ since Legion, this Season just ain’t it for me and I’m sure for many other players. And yea, I’m 47 yrs old, been playing with every type and age of players in my near 20 years playing WoW so, there’s been the bad and the good that I’ve dealt with but this expansion, this Mythic+ Season has been pretty bad experience so far and the Delves were the answer to alleviate the headaches and toxicity that Mythic+ usually comes with.
I just want to say, thanks Blizzard, we DO enjoy Delves, young or old. 
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When we were young, we can 24/7 life this game without RL income but we can buy tokens with our in-game Gold.
Now that we are old, we have income and $20 token is so cheap, but we have not much time on the game to farm for resources.
To me, buying expensive mats to craft ilevel 619s with token is okay. Buying carries is the no-no. We play this game to have fun. Destroying M+ Dungeons and Raid Bosses with Tier 8+ Bosses with our own toon is the fun we’re looking for.
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well, is 71 to old, I don’t think so, but my hands do lock up sometimes Lol
Well, that’s a matter of perspective and means. If a token costs you substantially less time than “making the in-game gold” - then why not? And, why would you spend 10 hours on something not fun that you could “pay for” in an hour of work time. You are just ruining your own amount of “fun time.”
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Hey man (OP), I’m also over 40. I was in the challenge mode runs at a pretty good level, the m+.
I was in progression ce guilds since ce was created. Was in a guild on zj that was 11/14 mythic SOO months before most others.
Loved m+ in legion, did some in BFA then quit game due to health emergency.
I’m not sure exactly what you’re beefing about because I largely skipped half bfa and all of sl.
I live life as a casual now, I run whatever I can and I still outperform other rogues, etc (but also get my butt whipped)
with lower level gear.
I don’t want to discourage you but I will suggest nicely - unlike the kiddos here - that it sounds like skill issues. Having said that, you don’ have to dedicate so much time to min maxing, you can still hit the high keys with lower ilvl gear FR
Best of luck and cheers!
40 isn’t old. The 1st week is always hard. This week will be easier with tyrannical being shifted to lower key.
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it’s true! However you know very well how Youngers, aka most of the loud community here, treat and talk about anyone over 30, much less 40. It’s very easy to be affected by that. He just has to be better.
p.s. not trying to argue, I agree
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Considering one of my deceased history class teachers who was 80 hit grand Marshall back in the day I think you are fine. I’m just pointing out it’s an excuse. You are never too old to start something and get good at something. Thinking otherwise is you being a downer. People 80+ are still killing it yes. People like you who like to drag others down are rather depressed people, you should seek help. Misery does love company.
Like I said, you do you. But tokens used like this makes it harder on you and the rest of us. No reason for mats to lower if tokens snatch them all up. I just think there are other ways to go about it than bringing tokens in.
Look, I’m not against tokens. And maybe that’s the best way for you. Just seems to me a little too close to buying your character as opposed to playing it. Part of the gear grind, for me, is I actually grinded my gear. Lately it’s been delves. But then I’m not attracted to the same content as you.
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Love the title
I hear Hims has a new pill for M+
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LMFAO you won the internet today.
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