In week 1/2 or later in the season? S1 is always the worst season of every expansion, especially at the very start. SL S1 and DF S1 (a little better than SL S1) were both difficult as well. I am hopeful as the season progresses and more people get more gear, it will be better as I enjoy M+ and have been doing it on my alts this week (mostly with no issues, but I also got KSM on my main last week, so that’s kind of a shoe in invite on my alts).
Later on i was playing classic, but i think i got KSM in about 2 week when i went back to retail , then again S3 was really easy
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Crazy how old people think the 40s are. It’s a time thing. Wife, kids, life. The complaint is that in DF I had the same exact commitments outside of wow and the same time commitment and was able to time very high keys (28) in season 3 while having a tank almost max level enjoying high keys (23) as well. The changes to m+(difficulty, gear and crest acquisition) by itself isn’t a deal breaker but the other changes on top of it are. The combination of m+, gold sink for consumable and crafted gear, the weird jump from heroic to mythic ilevel wise all really rub me wrong and make me think that blizz decided “respect your time” was a DF solgan and now it’s “get more tokens” . I’ve have abandoned my tank that i’ve mained or 2nd mained since BFA due to crafted gear costing so much. I know “If it was important to you you’d find time!” I have things that are important to me outside of wow that I do find time for. WoW isn’t a back burner kind of game anymore. Oh well. I usually take the last season off, I’ll just take a few months of of each season too.
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Every WoW expansion has the most players at the start typically and it declines over time.
If you’re starting off much lower than another it’s a perfectly important thing to notice and compare.
You continue to focus on one comment in the OP and ignore all the rest. I don’t think it’s an age thing myself, but there are a lot of problems with M+ making it less popular and driving previous M+ players away.
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And I’m saying are you comparing the numbers of DF S1 (keys 12+) to TWW S1? Or are you including all the keys from 2-11 from DF S1 (these levels no longer exist, they were pushed down into Heroic / M0). You are comparing apples to oranges, and it’s only day 11 of the season.
I’m comparing my own personal experience. I had more friends playing DF S1 and more people interested in pushing M+.
I made it partially pugging with 2 friends to +20 in DF S1 and we played a lot in DF S1. Now I have fewer total people on my friends list even playing TWW at all and the same people are already losing interest in M+ and don’t even want to bother doing many keys at all.
I’m also seeing a lot of people having the same experiences and talking about them on the forums and other places. People are just not interested in M+ in TWW S1 as much as they were in DF S1. It’s very common and it’s happening to lots of people currently.
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My experience has been the opposite, but I also don’t run with friends. I PuG and I have had no difference in my experiences from prior seasons to this one. I look for a group (there a ton, even at the random off hours I play), I get a group, some fail, some succeed, I move on.
I’ve also seen people say this season is more toxic than prior seasons, even that I find disingenuous. I’d estimate 90%+ of the time no one says a word, even when things go wrong. And when they do say something, it’s no different from what I’ve seen in the past.
You’ll understand when you are older.
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You shouldn’t use age as an excuse, as you’re hiding behind it instead of admitting the real problem. Here’s why
- Physical decline: Physical decline is not caused by aging, but by a lack of activity. This includes mental acuity. Your brain needs exercised as well.
- Pursuing goals: People are never too old to start something new or do something they want to do.
- Avoiding responsibility: A reason becomes an excuse when it’s used to avoid responsibility.
- French author Jules Renard said, “It’s not how old you are. It’s how you are old”.
Go to the gym, work out, eat well, you’re never too old to turn things around.
Yeah I guess people can just work out and get rid of their arthritis, or other chronic health issues, I guess. (Yes working out has general health benefits which can have some impact on arthritis, but the impact is small, unless you have a weight issue, which of course should be addressed for reasons other than your arthritis).
Luckily, even in my later 50s, I don’t have those kinds of issues, but I also never had great reflexes and, yes, they do decline with age, that is well documented. You can bend over backwards to try to maintain your reflexes to a certain video game standard, it it’s really important to you, but it requires a lot of investment in your fine motor, which is not the gym, and is not about pursuing goals – hopefully most people at this stage in life have plenty of goals but typically not video-game related ones.
Anyway, age is an inherently toxic topic.
They are going the arcade route, and no matter how much gear you get, you will never be powerful. You will have no sense of progression. It is the same thing they did to d4. Each expansion, each patch will make you feel insignificant all over again. I would suggest moving on, this isn’t going to change. They cater to the .5%. They want you to pay to play so they sell tokens.
Predatory sales are the business tactic. Your exact feeling is what they are after. WoW tokens, pay to win, loot boxes and Mtx should all be illegal.
You aren’t too old.
You just need practice. Sadly, to get practice, you need time and people with patience.
Also, I think there is a ton of tribal knowledge about this game that isn’t well documented in one place. It isn’t intentional, it is a result of an old game.
Things such as:
- there are ideal graphic settings that make seeing things far easier while improving game perf 1000%
- there are weak auras that basically tell you everything to do and when
- there are also addons that basically tell you everything and when
- there are nameplate addons like plater that paired with weak aura packages, tell you and highly what to interrupt and who should do it
- There are addons/weak auras that tell you what button to press as part of your rotation so it basically becomes guitar hero (I actually hate this)
- there are communities for “old folks” like you…you aren’t old at all. Everyone is struggling or has struggled…the game is hard to get into without help. Google Wow Made Easy for a discord full of people who are not toxic (or they get removed)
I’m missing many things here but when I came back to game …I felt the way you do, but then I remembered all this extra crap you got to know about to make the game far easier.
People say join guilds and I recommend it…not because its the way to meet people but also many guilds have this stuff documented and/or have people teaching others these tricks.
Also WTB the ability to shut off 99% of other player’s spells…jfc. I don’t know how people play melee in this game when your screen is one giant seizure.
TBF, I was speaking about age in general. Not every “old man (40+)” has arthritis or other chronic health issues, as there are people much younger who also have these. That’s a different discussion completely, and wasn’t what the topic was really about.
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If they catered to the .5% WoW would look extremely different.
If anything, the .5% gets the least in WoW.
All you do is spam the forums with your hatred of WoW. Why are you still here?
To be fair, what you’re saying is also disingenuous to a point.
Everyone succumbs to entropy at some point, regardless if they are fit or not, and it happenes to different people at different times/rates, based on their genetics and environment.
Personal anecdote, I used to do hardcore PvP and was really good at it, but I no longer have the dexterity in my fingers to do it now, with no way of preventing that from happening.
Degradation is real. We don’t age, we break down.
I prefer the Indiana Jones quote…
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Yes, we do age, but with regular exercise and a healthy lifestyle you can greatly slowdown that process or even reverse it. I’m not saying you can stop it completely, you will eventually succumb to it, but 40, 50, or even 60 isn’t it. If it is, you’re not taking care of yourself.
And yeah, I would say it’s more the type of mileage. Highway miles (eating healthy, exercising, etc.) vs off-road stop and go miles (eating junk food, never working out, etc.) will definitely wear on you differently.
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There’s a macro command you can do to turn off the displaying of floating damage and or healing numbers that appear above your character as you’re fighting. I found that help me out a lot to get rid of that.
Also, a new accessibility feature lets you highlight your character making their outline glow that helps a bit too. Its not perfect though, because of the aura being the same color as the spell explosions and the pally consecration field on the ground all going off at the same time, but it does something, it’s better than nothing.
Don’t mean to be argumentative, but you literally cannot reverse aging, you can only slow it down, and only so if your genetics allows you to do so.
You can put yourself in a better environment, and you can be healthier by eating healthy foods, but even doing all that you can still succumb to degradation early if your genetic have a flaw or just preset a certain way.
We have some control, but not all the control, in how we age. Someday, when the technology allows us to completely manipulate our genetics, then you would be absolutely right, but we’re not there yet.
Can someone explain to me what is the correlation between age and mythic+?
When you get older, your body doesn’t work the same.
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