No gear and no leveling for one expansion

Gah, Thier eyes are already glaring at me! Pleas… pleas… put your shivs away… I believe we need a wow reinvention.

To start no leveling, everything will be acquired through quests and bring attunements back for dungeons and raids.

All gear would be cosmetic.

This game would officially become skill based over what used to be gear based.

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I would love something like this, make the game about the adventure, not the gear.
it would never fly though, it would kill Blizzard’s Esport dreams.

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I mean the leveling experience in retail is almost non existant anyways. If there is no gear/character progression, it no longer gives a goal to players. If you truly think the game is purely gear based for an average player Im not sure what to tell you.

Everyone can practically be 415 ilvl at this point with valor, so technically the game is already skill based to a degree.

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Um maybe. I think the best way to go about this is to reintroduce older tier sets from older raids with set bonuses that change your playstyle. “Sidegrades” is what they’re known by, and this would allow use of things like Shadowmourne or Warglaives of Azzinoth to be relevant in current tier content.

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no thank you

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What is this thing you call “skill”? Knowing the fights and that fire burns?

And do what exactly while playing? Strive for pretty clothing?

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Idk about you, but I only pushed KSM for the mount. Cosmetics are a big factor in character progression. Well I guess I pushed KSM for the achievement, but still. It’s nice to have a mount that shows that I accomplished it. It’s why raiders push World First; they don’t get any best in slot item for being the first guild to clear mythic; it’s just for cosmetic.

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So… What ff14 did after the MSQ of Endwalker called Newfound Adventure.

This is literally the ideal for esports culture, my guy.

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gear progression has always been a thing and always will be you truly want the game to die right?

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What is you could upgrade your existing gear in some way? Sure, raid Black Temple solo to get the glaives but you STILL need to go for current content to be able to upgrade them. Perhaps mobs could drop upgrade tokens, with quality depending on what they are so a raid boss would obviously drop higher quality upgrade token then a random barely elite world boss. Then apply the token to an existing item and they become levelled up in ability to fit the token. The mechanics for this already exist in crafting now so why not expand on that? For roleplaying this would be excellent because you may just want to hold on to that precious item from that quest you once did, transmog may not be enough especially if it isn’t a visible item.

Sure, Legion artifact weapons were great. I don’t see why we can’t have the same thing for other items.

We had have Level squish now it’s time for power squish.
Back to vanilla stats and damage!
Dps
Mage/lock/rogue/warrior: 1000+
Hunter: 750
Feral druid: 700
**Shadow priest: 700 **
Balance druid: 6-700
Elemental shaman: 5-600
Retribution paladin: 4-500
Enhancement shaman: 4-500

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Do this if you want to kill the WoW franchise and drop subscribers to zero.

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You could believe that if you want. Wow has been bleeding subs for years. I doubt it will drop to zero if the lore is good.

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They do need to change gear. It’s been boring forever now. Get rid of secondary stats or something.

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the gear treadmill is what people like, even if they wont admit it.

dropping leveling for an expansion and having questing give actual rewards I’m all for though.

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ilvl is temporary. Cosmetic is forever.

:ocean: :dragon: :ocean: :dragon:

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Interesting topic, but IF it were ever to even be considered, they’d really have to up their transmog game. The leveling armor is the same throughout the process with just a color change. It would really need some more unique armor per expansion if we were only acquiring it for cosmetics, and not stats.

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Would be interesting to see how the tryhards would react, and eventually try to gate everything.

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