No GDKPs = No Bots

Not all GDKP runners use RMT’d gold,
but all RMT gold is used by GDKP runners.

It’s been exposed years ago that GDKP are generally hosted by gold selling companies.

Even joining a GDKP without your having personally purchased gold in a real life currency transaction inevitably involves the acquisition of RMT’d gold. It makes you a volunteer temp employee of a gold selling website.

Ban GDKP. Brian was the only classic lead dev who supported it and you fired him.

Show some respect for the original devs who made Raid Loot BoP for a reason.
(Spoiler: That reason wasn’t so someone could show up with RMT’d gold to buy gear.)

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Literally anybody can host a GDKP. Same as any raid with any other loot distribution system.

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But only one loot system is overwhelmingly used by Gold Selling Companies.
Only one loot system results in every bot you see on a server.
Just one loot system is the main driver of server economy inflation.

Let’s mature into Banning GDKP.

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Just ban gold selling.

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The root of that tree is GDKP. If you don’t pull it out by the root, there will forever be too many bots to ban.

Just ban GDKP. Poof - Gold selling is gone! Bots are gone!

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Is this intended to suggest that GDKPs are the root of RMT? (i.e. removing GDKPs would remove RMT?)

If it was this easy that would be wonderful, even though it would be difficult to actually enforce the banning of GDKPs.

It is the objective observation and logical conclusion, when being honest, that removing GDKPs would remove all RMT outside of fringe cases like epic mount buying, which is the smallest fraction of the current RMT industry, the tiniest slice of that pie.

That’s parroted often but has been debunked for just as long. ~60k players across all the TurtleWoW servers (which SoD is emulating) and they’re banned on the spot just fine, with a fraction of the budget and staff.

Blizzard has always been fighting a losing battle banning the resulting demand for gold selling and buying, rather than pursuing the source which is GDKP.

Let’s simply ban GDKP, which is almost entirely RMT or RMT-enabling, and go back to playing Vanilla WoW how it was back in the day - without the popularity of retail exclusive loot systems like GDKP which destroy fragile economies and invite bots and RMT’ing.

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You’re really lashing out here, try to be civil and refrain from personal attacks which only serve to demonstrate that you can’t counter any of the points or arguments made:

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Another person blaming GDKP for something it’s not responsible for. People have always traded gold, and will always trade gold, so long as it can be traded. They did it long before GDKP existed, and continue to do it now on realms that don’t even have GDKP.
:axe:

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But it would be crippplingly dishonest of you to pretend that GDKP Gold Buying isn’t more prevalent now than in these past times when people only RMT’d for epic riding.

The sheer bot population resulting from GDKP fully debunks your take.

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Prolly because he’s an idio… like someone who makes this post.
Selling service is officially approved by blizzard. It has been for years and widely accepted by wow players. GDKP is another form of selling service. That’s it.

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OP aint wrong but little men who buy gold come to defend it. Aint noone farming hundreds of thousands of gold on era by normal methods.

Most gold spent in the game is by far in GDKPs. If you dont admit that, youre just lying to yourself and everyone else.

Im afraid nothing will be done though and this is the game now. Bots = revenue and player count for the company.

It is what it is. Find a guild that runs a loot method of your preferred method when SoD comes. There should be plenty of soft reserve / rolls / loot council guilds to join.

:saluting_face:

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Just to add more details to my context. I have never ever bought gold once in my life. However, I defend gold buyers because they are more helpful to the game than whinners who have no skill to compete the top, who has no finance to support the game. The best thing they are good at is to whine and blame their pathetic gameplay on w/e. Right now they find gold buyers are their reason to be bad at this game, when there was no more gold buyers they would find another reason to blame on.

+1 for support. If SoD is about trying out new ways to make the game better, banning GDKP is a great way to start. Only the p2w kiddos would care and SoD would better off with out them anyway.

Stated like a gold buyer trying to defend their p2w approach to gaming.

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I’m about as anti gdkp as it gets, but the thread title is misleading.

It won’t kill ALL the bots, but it will dramatically reduce the demand for their illicit gold, which in turn will diminish both their business, and eventually their population.

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Ban anyone who buys gold.

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Interesting theory but then how do you explain gold sellers and bots before gdkp and other games that don’t have gdkp yet still have bots?

I have made alot of gold in gdkp’s. Banning them would greatly reduce RMT. However gold has uses in wow such as BOE’s, mounts, professions. So RMT would not be gone but it would be much less prevalent which would reduce the number of bots due to lower demand.

I dont care if gdkp’s are banned but i do think SoD is the time to try it. Literally a time of discovery to see what happens.

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If they wanted to stop it, they wouldn’t of added WoW tokens to wotlk.

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Yep. The only real way to stop it is to ban gold buyers and sellers. Also, if they’d just ban bots in real time instead of waiting 3-6 months to do waves it would be better too. Why can’t it be a department where all they do is respond to bot reports and go check them out as invisible GMs in game. Ban the account if it checks out.

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