Two things;
Two things:
If you don’t have time to raid normally you don’t have time to farm the gold needed for GDKPs either.
GDKPs give players an incentive to stay for the full duration of the raid and perform up to standard. It also gives an incentive to players who wouldn’t otherwise have anything to gain from the older/lower content.
That’s not the case in other PuGs.
Seeing as I don’t want to commit to another weekly raid, I’m just taking the pass on WoW for a bit.
These changes are literally only excluding players.
All the cheaters will still be there.
So it perpetuates the “What do I get out of it?” mentality that has infected WoW?
IF people leave your PUG raid never invite them again, problem solved.
Further you can do most of the raids with 25-30 people, 10-15 people could literally Be AFK and you’d still finish MC.
If you don’t have time don’t raid.
If you want to do GDKPs ERA will still be there.
Excluding players that don’t participate in anything other than GDKPs anyways.
They can still play on Era and get their GDKP freak on.
It’s a game literally built on progressing your character.
If you’re not doing that, you’re indirectly hampering your future raid groups.
If the progression didn’t matter, people wouldn’t have issues with loot.
I give random level 10s greens for free because the GDKPers have messed up the economy so badly that that level 10 greens are 1-3g.
I help randoms do quests even if I don’t need the quest.
We’re not playing the same game.
Clearly if you’re spending your time with level 10s rofl
Have you ever been in a GDKP or are you speaking from only your fears?
I go out of my way to help people out duder.
I try to make whatever server I’m on a better place.
Have you never gone to Crossraods with a bunch of greens and just handed it out like candy?
GFKP raids are like being in Barrens Chat except you’re on voice with people.
Super toxic elitists who are only focused on getting as much gold as possible.
The peoples saint that no one asked for.
I have. Do you think it’s difficult or something?
Compared to the players that want you to carry them through content because they want to play the game how they want to, even if it means making it more difficult for those around them. Aka not team players.
I’m already seeing people talking about rolling the good ol fashion meme specs, that have thousands of hours documented as being unfit for the roles those players want to force them into. Those players don’t care about those around them, they are selfish and the game will bleed players as soon as the best of those are done with their agendas.
I enjoy helping people.
Be the change you want to see.
Everybody on your faction is on your team, everybody on your faction is your teammate.
WoW is a big Red Vs Blue game like Halo.
By helping people on your faction you make your faction stronger which means you’re more likely to “win” those WPVP engagements on a faction-wide scale.
It’s not difficult but it strengthens the server/faction community as a whole and those people are more likely to help out others they come across. It snowballs.
You kick those players from your raids.
Problem solved.
If they’re running meme specs and you don’t like meme specs have a non-meme spec raid.
Meme specs are fun.
It’s okay to play suboptimally if you’re having fun and the people you’re playing with are cool with it.
We knew Ret and Boomkin were terrible in Vanilla.
We still brouught them to raids because we brought the player not the class.
It’s a vidoe game it’s supposed to be fun.
Classic Era WoW isn’t an E-Sport.
I’m glad you see the game that way but it’s designed to bring in people who love to see progression and check marks in boxes.
The game is designed around leveling.
Raiding was tacked on as an afterthought.
Vanilla WoW is a casual game.
It’s not. They put in end game raids for each level bracket in SoD since the player base would die off without end game content.
The vast majority of players, log in to progress their toon in one way or another.
SoD isn’t vanilla.
It takes 96-110 hours(4-5 days) /played to get to level 60 in base Vanilla and that’s if you’re speedrunning it.
There isn’t even 100 hours of raid content.
Most people are clearing each raid in 1-3 hours every week until you get to the hard(relative to MC/BWL/ZG) raids.
The vast majority of players log in because they want to have fun.
GDKP has a net negative impact on a server.
GDKP has a severe impact on the server economy as a whole.
If you don’t participate in GDKPs you can’t buy anything on the AH and you’ll never get your upgraded abilitiies(BShout VII is 1800g on Whitemane Cluster).
If you like GDKP that’s great, play era, let us have a GDKP free server.
How many players do you think level to 60 without the intention of playing past that?
Era has been out for 5 years now. Do you understand raw gold inflation?
Why can’t I make an MS > OS raid, loot a BShout book, and sell it for gold? Are only GDKP raiders eligible to sell things on the AH?
GDKP raiders directly control the economy.
The cost of raid mats goes up exponentially specifically because GDKPs can afford 25g per mongoose pot.
Something the average player can’t.
You talk about people being “excluded”.
GDKP excludes people from being able to buy flasks and potions.
Why can’t I sell flask to them and make a fortune?
Do I have to swipe gold to make flask?
How are you going to afford the recipe if you don’t do GDKPs to afford the hyper-inflated prices created by GDKPers?
So the formulas are only available on the AH?
Random World drops of flasks get need rolled by the whole party even if you can learn it on the spot.
You’ve played the game you know this.