If you want dual spec wait for Wrath. The only changes that should be made are changes to problems with the game as it was. Stop asking for features from outside TBC to be added into the game. No dual spec, no transmog, no barbers, no whatever other dumb ideas this forum comes up with, and personally I would also like to see no boosting (unlikely $$$$).
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Not having dual spec wasn’t a problem? Even though it was requested by the time people were assailing An’Qiraj?
An interesting point of view.
Now, I’m not saying that not having dual spec is an insurmountable problem, I’m just saying it was a problem, particularly for those who PvP’d or whose class teamed better in one spec and did world content better in another.
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Now that boosts are on the table, dual spec is piddles by comparison. The doors are open and #changes has reached full steam.
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Now that Boosting is confirmed, I’d like to see Dual or even Tri Spec, post-nerf Raids (Don’t want it too challenging as I have a job and a life). At 70, each player should receive 5,000 gold in the mail to flying (again, job and life). Anything else that makes my life easier would be appreciated. Thanks!
It’s not like we’re getting Human and Undead Hunters, Pandaren, and being able to swap between 4 specs in the field, either.
#PandarenmonkforTBC
I joke, but honestly dual spec would be a nice change so players could PvP and pve. I honestly don’t care either way, I played TBC back in the day. It’s going to super fun regardless.
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Too be honest, I think playing all the races and classes that are in Shadowlands from a Vanilla, TBC, and Wrath perspective would be a very interesting experience, but I don’t think I’ll ever see it unless I make my own server.
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Personally, I like the variety and flavor that the lack of dual spec adds to the game. Instead of just 9 classes to choose from, we functionally have 27.
If you’re a prot warrior, that says something about you. You’re a dedicated, specialized tank. If you’re just a warrior w/ dual spec, you’re not necessarily dedicated or specialized in anything. You’re just like every other warrior out there. They’re all the same.
IMO, if they are going to add dual spec, why not go all the way and let people change their class and spec on a whim. That way everyone can be the same. But how bland and boring would that be?
I’m with the OP. Don’t change anything unless it’s OBVIOUSLY broken, like drums, like Seal of Blood.
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Bet you thought you were being clever with this post. You would be onto something if respecing wasn’t already a thing, so your drivel about having 27 classes falls flat. Dunno why you weirdos are so obsessed with people wanting more options available. Respecing does nothing more than slow down or deter players from experiencing multiple aspects of the game. Nobody is stopping you from feeling like a special boy everytime you hit the class trainer for a respec and somebody having the option to switch from PvE talents to PvP doesn’t hurt you either.
Tldr purists are cringe.
Not true. It actually adds variety and flavor. Right now, respeccing is as much a problem on this than dual-speccing is, but I don’t see any complaints on this. And it’s not like most players aren’t looking up guides on how to spec the Talents of a class they aren’t as familiar with any way, which reduces that variety.
With dual-speccing one has the variety because one doesn’t have to go through extra steps to swap between Arms and Protection, or Feral and Restoration. As it is, one of the things I like most about the spec situation right now is if I happen to be in a dungeon on DPS and tank leaves after the first boss, I can just hop in to tank mode and carry on. Heck, this happened on the first few raids in Nathria my guild did because my iLevel was higher than those who were acting as secondary tanks. That’s variety.
The reason there are extra steps, and the reason it costs gold, is because the original designers did not want you switching on a whim. It wasn’t a mistake. It wasn’t an oversight. It was by design.
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I see that was a design. And later they changed it to enable ppl to play however spec they want. It opens up a larger player pool because none is gated/locked by the respec cost and inconvenience
On paper, the dual or tri spec is good for the game health and for players enjoyments.
Reading the retail game play change history, Blizzard actually made many good design choices. Personal loot and targetable loot is very good with zero drama. Free talent respec and warmode are also good.
However, this is a recreation of TBC, dual spec wasn’t in game. I see little chance for such a big change.
Cost stays 50g in TBC. It’s a waste of time. You are not switching on a whim, you are given more room to experience different parts of the game without downtime. It’s two specs, not 3, not 4 not 5. Again, if you wanna pat yourself on the back because you paid 50G to the class trainer, then by all means pat away. But at this point you are just crying for the sake of crying and it’s pathetic.
WoW was originally a role playing game. Which means you commit your character to a role and you play him in that role.
One of the complaints about retail WoW is that all of the RPG elements have been stripped away. This is one of them.
One of the reasons many people want to play the Classic versions is because those RPG elements are still intact. If you take those away to appease retail players, it defeats the point.
What a hilariously bad argument. Are you implying there are no role-playing games that allow you to change aspects of your character as you progress? WoW isn’t and was never a difficult game, you are playing the special olympics of MMOs, a game responsible for dumbing down the genre. There are thousands of staple RPGs that allow you to change aspects of your character. Be it skill points, stats, some even allow you to swap classes. You have no real argument for why Dual Spec is bad and you have no real argument for why having to run to your trainer to respec is good. If you were meant to completely commit respeccing wouldn’t even be an option.
To reiterate, purists are cringe.
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It is good on paper, nothing bad about that.
It is just that this release is tbc. We are talking about change or nochange
In term of gameplay, dual spec is superior
No, I’m not saying that at all. But it was once a staple of the genre, and it was that way for role-playing reasons. And it still is that way in some very successful modern RPG’s, like Dark Souls.
You’re missing the point. You’re not supposed to respec, except on rare occasion. It’s not supposed to be something that you do every week. Just like when you wake up in RL each day, you’re not supposed to be able to press a button and switch from expertise in one profession to another, like electrician to plumber. You’re supposed to pick a spec and stick with it and own it. That’s what the original designers intended.
You can change every aspect of your character in Dark Souls. What are you even talking about? Again if commitment was a requirement respecing wouldn’t exist. I’m done with you.
Nope…
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