spends 17 hours straight playing PVP AV…
doesnt spend 5 minutes to verify they will get what they are after…
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Post the verified link big guy. You have 5 minutes.
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what does this mean
Not letting this topic die.
There is not one single logically consistent argument why this was arbitrarily removed from the vendor and delayed until it a point in time when it would be significantly obsolete.
It has the EXACT SAME item level as Don Julio’s band, which melee & hunters are already running around using … yet mages/priests/locks are not allowed to use their equal-tiered rep reward for another 6+ months? The Classic experience does not mean “make the same dumb mistakes as vanilla”… hence why we are using 1.12 with all bug fixes.
If everything is supposed to be exactly as it was in vanilla, then revert the Tier1/2 buffs, revert the PvP gear buffs, remove the spellblade, add back in the flask duping exploit … you know, because ‘thats how it was in vanilla’
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Actually, the 1.11 version of the Rank gear was completely different items. It wasn’t just Itemization.
1.11
https://itemization.info/item/23243
1.4
https://itemization.info/item/16516
which makes it silly if items are missing because they were “from phase 5”
Why hold this back?
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This is 1/2 the reason I am spending 10 hr+ off from work days in a row farming the crapfest that is AV and now I am hearing that it will not be available??
We need a blue response here asap!
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This doesn’t make a lot of sense if there are gear pieces in the game that are even further out than Phase 5.
Doesn’t seem like a good judgement call.
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Well yes and no…
I get why they’re doing it but it’s still dumb; that I agree.
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As if it would end at the fifth post.
So naive. 
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I find this very comical.
there’s really no yes and no about it.
Rank gear in 1.4 is completely different items than in 1.11
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Correct, and there are more of them…
That’s the ironic part,.
Where as the AV loot is using the later versions and upgrades and methods to obtain where as they left out certain items…
Again I agree, and I understand where the rational is used to make such a choice even if I think its a bad choice given they already screwed up the game with the late vanilla itemization and half baked artificial spell batching and insane leeway mechanics that are by no actual means authentic in real game play VS REAL vanilla.
Sure maybe it was possible to reproduce the oddity that is leeway in vanilla in some very obscure situations, but this is not the observation that 95% of the population experienced in actual vanilla…
Instead we got a literalist interpretation of Vanilla, much like a Lawyer who promises X but via double talk gives you Z instead.
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Is Don Julio’s band in? How about the Unstoppable force and the immovable object.
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Everything except Don Rodrigos
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Yeah I was surprised too when I hit exalted, but at least the rep grind is over, while the wins came fast and easy.
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I don’t think it has to do with the spell pen like some on wowhead are saying. Rodrigos was added into the game later than the other items. I think patch 1.9 or somewhere around there. That is likely the reason why it’s not in the game now and atlas loot as well as wowhead classic have shown that it was going to be added in phase 5 to compensate for that. Some items that were added in later on have been opened up already in classic but for the most part, Blizzard has added things into classic in a similar way to how they were added in original vanilla’s patch cycles to try and keep it as authentic as they can.
It probably wouldn’t hurt anything to just go ahead and put Rodrigos in now but I don’t know if they will. Casters definitely draw the short straw when it compares to BG/PVP rewards compared to melee classes though, that’s always been the case.
But R14 spellblade is in the game right now and came out even later than Rodrigo’s in original vanilla.
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Seems like an oversight honestly
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Bump, this needs attention, it makes no sense. Spell pen IS in the game already, so that’s no excuse. This is on par with the melee counterpart, it’s ridiculous that it’s not available to casters who did the EXACT SAME rep grind as their melee peers. We need a hotfix on this, asap
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