I am looking to que for this but its not in the dungeon list, only normal mode but I know a heroic mode exists… do we need to unlock it or something? What am I missing?
Perhaps going to the dungeon entrance will allow you to zone in under Heroic.
But you can not queue for it, HC now uses the seasonal roster.
Dungeons not in the season can’t be run in heroic or mythic. This dungeon is presently not in season (or at least queued for it like in this instance).
Run it as a follower dungeon if you got a quest for it you are looking to do.
Well that is ridiculous. Almost all the dungeons are available as heroic minus this one. So I have to wait until next season?
No, only half of the TWW dungeons are available for heroic mode, because only half are in season.
You can still run all of them as follower or normal mode dungeons if you need to be in there for some reason.
I think you’re going to find half of the TWW dungeons are like this…not “just this one”.
And guess what? Next season, still only 4 of the TWW dungeons are going to be in season and the current ones won’t be. Just how things work.
I don’t even see why you care in the first place. Again, if you have a quest, go do the quest on a follower dungeon. If you want gear, then just run random heroics. The “old” dungeons give up to date gear. This is a non issue.
That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard of. There is absolutely ZERO reason mythic tracks should push their seasonal crap onto heroics. They… are… heroic. They have never done this in the entire history of wow heroics… Why blizzard would even bother doing this is beyond me. Really irritating. Guess I just have to wait until next season which is in however long.
The reason is for left of bell curves, like yourself, to become familar with the dungeons and have a more natural learning curve if/when you advance into mythic 0 and even mythic+. It’s actually a great change. The dungeons in a season all have a normal, heroic, mythic 0, and key versions letting players get familiar and run the dungeons their peers are doing for it/when they advance to higher difficulties.
And if you “really” need to do an off season dungeon for any reason (like again for the quests), you can just get the NPC’s to run you through it and unlike human NPCs, which may get uppity or snarky or have a lottery odds chance of somehow making your gameplay experience unpleasant for whatever reason, the computer NPCs will never judge you or whine that you got gear or somehow got them killed (they’re quite capable of doing that bit on their own) or whatnot.
What exactly are you needing to do Darkflame Cleft on heroic for?
I doubt that entirely. They definitely put old dungeons as heroics to appease the mythic crowd, which I am getting tired of dealing with. Nope, I’m just trying to get the Remnant of Darkness trinket. I am quite familiar with dungeons and have never had any issues running them in my entire history of playing. I will just wait however many months until it opens up next season. Thanks for all of your information.
You are welcome. You are also welcome to try and put up a group in group finder and manually going in there. Good luck finding like-minded bodies, but that’s certainly your prerogative and maybe there are others like you out there also wanting to run that specific dungeon on that specific mode for a very specific item that definitely gets outclassed by more readily available items. You’ll never know unless you try.
Just be prepared to accept the likelihood there isn’t.
This started in DF in season 3 or 4 maybe?
It’s a good change, your dislike not withstanding.
The idea is that heroic dungeons now award vault loot and upgradable gear, and are as difficult as old m0 used to be. Old m0 was buffed to be roughly equivalent to an old +10.
Each season has a pool of upgradable gear, so this keeps the pool consistent.
Each season has 8-10 new dungeons, so this keeps the heroic content consistent for people either starting out there or for whom heroic is their end mode. It offers players of all difficulties a season to season variety instead of the same dungeons all expansion.
It would be weird if you had people farming heroic dungeons that were out of season to get some OP trinket and upgrading it to veteran, and people who cap at heroic didn’t get to enjoy the same seasonal variety as everyone else.
For instance, while Rookery is not available on Heroic, Mists and Necrotic Wake are!
I appreciate it, someone told me the portals to the instances disappear if you try to switch it to heroic or mythic, so I don’t think I am going to bother with it right now. I’ll just wait until they become available next season.
What do you need in heroic Darkflame anyway?
an achievement