Uhm. Deepfreeze plz. kthnx. bye. Going back to classic.
Enjoy classic, where deepfreeze also does not exist.
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It does on WotLK Classic.
Every patch that doesn’t add an option for a permanent Water Elemental makes me more disillusioned. I’m going to have to go crazy with feedback during the next expansion’s suggestion/feedback thread if this keeps up.
So my question is, frost mages are going to remain unchanged but affliction warlocks are getting an insane corruption, UA and agony PvP buff? Like 20%+ and they are already a nightmare for me to face in 2s lol. We just rot with no answer. Demo pets are rough for me too and they are getting buffed too?
Did everyone forget that Mages got their changes not too long ago? Other classes are now getting theirs when appropriate.
Why would we expect anymore huge flourishing changes?
Not much else they can give us unless its cold snap/cauterize for all specs which really ain’t much when all youre fighting is hunters, warriors, dhs, and dks.
I am already leveling up other classes because warriors are getting more “counter mage” buffs due to consistent complaining on forums. They literally just want to dominate everyone which is why they complain about mages and monks (because of fist of fury parry) but no one else.
Eventually, warriors going to be like DHs gap closers but instead constantly bladestorming with sprint (ignoring all cc/stun/roots/snares) and piercing howl being given 2 second root for countering frost nova.
Hunters still sniping us for 300k in camo even though they removed our ability to hard cast the 2.3 second interruptible arcane surge in mass invis.
DKs are also on the rise, just had my first solo with 2 dks and a bm hunter. Went 0-6 for the first time ever due to death grip having no DR. Literally just constant death grips, pet stun/range interrupt/range silence/range stun, and chain spam. This crap is disguisting
Im not mad about not getting changes, I’m mad that we are not getting balanced, we will be F minus tier in PvP now. Why does affliction warlock get huge dot damage buffs? Lmao.
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Well yea, also, mage forums are so dead. Compared to all other classes, we have the least amount of posts lol. I’m honestly surprised anyone is playing frost PvP as mage. I might just retool affliction warlock.
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Would be fine if we didn’t get a massive revamp because we got our love.
I would still like them to look at arcane capstones and the right side of the tree and give it the attention that fire and frost got. A competitive alternative to radiant spark would be really nice!
No, they are getting a huge PvP only buff in 10.2 after just receiving one last patch a few weeks ago. I can’t find the notes now, it’s hard on my phone and I’m traveling for the next month.
Haha right. Bro I am about to brush the dust off the 60 lock now. I was about to try a monk but nahh…ima play the meta for a while and be lazy.
Balancing in 2’s is never good. However complaining about affliction buffs as a baseline example comparative to frost mage is a bit insane. Affliction has had one of if not the lowest win rate at every rating bracket all expansion. The specialization needs these changes in PvP to counter-act its PvE based design.
You just got a class rework and your specs have seen a great success all season and continues to be. Genuinely troubled as to why you think “deep freeze” will fix your problems and will make mage great again. Look at your existing toolkit.
So please enlighten me as to why an affliction getting consistent uptime changes in exchange for modifiers is bad. Frost mage has some of the strongest pace control in the entire game with excellent throughput. You will be fine.
They could make our shields talents not be nerfed in PvP, allow accumulating shielding to work with Masd Barrier. Diverted Energy and Tempest Barrier should be viable. Mass Barrier and Ice Barrier should stack like they do with different mage specs casting it.
We are the 2nd worst class 1800+ in 2s and RBGs and 5th worst class in 3s, overall the worst class over the 3 brackets…maybe 2nd along with evokers, we need some kind of buffs, but we get nerfs just because we counter warriors.
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That part.
They complained for like 3 months straight about mages and monks. No one else and they finally getting what they want. Arcane complained for 6 years and got a rework then nerfed the second week after the rework. Rofl so yeah…im going to affli lock.
So far, im loving it on my 61. My mage wouldve been dead in a lot of these pvp situations.
The only big changes to expect are tuning changes for mages.
I’m done with retail for the moment tell 10.2 and spending more time playing Classic HC.
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I have noticed the majority of the ones complaining tend to be lower rated players where if they focused on improving their play they would gain more from it.
It’s crazy they mention RBG and 2s as an example of bad balance. My point is really just how strong mage has been and how absurd your utility has become since merging all 3 specs core abilities in main tree. And their first choice made to compare is one of the most conditional and counter-able casters in the game with the least amount of CC/utility and worst win conditional. Which just shows they don’t understand affliction or how to effectively play mage.