Do ya’ll think when TBC comes out we’ll have as many no changers ppl as we did in vanilla classic? I’m just curious, it kinda sucked having them around and I’m thinking most of them will stay on vanilla.
Lol after all the changes in classic? I don’t know how people still think there were no changes.
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What changes do you want? More progressive patching would be good, but I don’t want a bunch of changes.
No it wouldn’t. The point of patching is to stay ahead of meta formations. Going back through old patches would just mean people playing what they know is meta or broken within each specific patch. There’s legitimately no point to progressive patches with any of these Classic projects. Will you people still be around for WotLK Classic asking for progressive patches so we can relive launch DKs?
It’s ridiculous.
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LoL. Who thought there were changes?
I think so. What does “no changers” mean to you?
My idea is that it means people who think that no changes is a reasonable approach to reintroducing old content, since it will be difficult to have changes that match the preference of everyone.
For example, some people have been wanting LFG for WoW Classic. Some people wanted PVP servers to add the option to unflag (i.e. to be PVE servers), esp. during Phase 2. Some people would like to nerf XP gains while being boosted by higher level characters, etc. etc.
Mythic+ instances, and Death knights.
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Yes. Progressive or bust. We know the meta regardless if its 2.0 or 2.4.3
I agree. No changers please. 
Lol death knights.
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Shrug. Just do an instance retune to emulate the original experience.
Do you not understand that the later patches are more balanced than the early patches? The only reason to call for progressive patches is so that you can play all the known metas and exploit all the known broken mechanics within each patch. You want it so that you can always be playing the meta spec but also have the opportunity to change what you’re playing as the progressive patches move you into the next meta.
You’re asking to be a full xpac meta slave, but don’t want to be stuck playing only one spec. You want to have your cake and eat it too regardless of what asinine roll out of TBC that would require. You absolute clown show.
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Stop putting words in my mouth. Idgaf about metas. I want progressive so we can play through the patches like we did back then. It also makes the game last longer because some of the raid bosses were harder. Don’t presume to know what I want or don’t want. You don’t know a thing about me. There are tons of reasons to want progressive that isn’t meta. Even if we did 2.4.3 we would still have the meta. Why do you care? It seems to me that you want the last meta. You don’t care about balance. Your chosen class is bis in 2.4.3 isn’t it? See how I make wild assumptions about your intentions without knowing a thing about you and having absolutely not proof to back my claims up?
I’ve been a rogue this whole time in classic. I’ll be a resto druid or shaman the whole time in tbc. I don’t change based on metas.
I’m a no changer that’s smart enough to know there will be some changes. I’m no changes to combat the most egregious of changes. Tbh, I think a lot of the problems people have in classic stem from their mega server and not no changes. My server isn’t a mega server and we don’t have any of the problems i hear people complaining about and blaming on no changes. It’s almost always because they are on an over populated server.
No, the reason to have progressive patches is because in TBC content was nerfed significantly over the course of the xpac. If we could at least get progressive patches with regard to PvE tuning, the content will be more challenging when we first encounter it instead of nerfed to hell like it was by 2.4.3.
I’m mostly no changer, except when necessary to counter obvious exploits that have emerged over the years and become meta, like world buffs and one-pull mage boosting.
And I am certainly a no changer when it comes to most retail QoL features. If I wanted those features, I’d just play retail. One of the big reasons I’m playing Classic instead is because I think that the absence of those features is an improvement.
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Yeah your last paragraph pretty much. If I wanted retail I’d play retail.
Sorry, I have a typo:
…should have been “Who thought there were no changes?” 
I’m in the same boat as you, I think. Where I understand that some changes are going to happen - it’s 2021 now, and things have changed. When WoW initially launched, we didn’t even have the BattleNet Launcher, we didn’t have BattleTags, we also didn’t have in-game voice, until TBC, I think, not that anybody uses it…
Same, but at the same time, I’m not complaining that I can move my character in the character window by holding my left mouse button down, and don’t have to click the arrow buttons. 
I don’t have a problem with the character mover and things that don’t mess with gameplay. Not knowing if my rogue is in T2 or T3 in the world because I’ve mogged it to T2 is a problem for the person who might want to fight me.
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Or, you know, you could just convince Blizzard to tune the content to be harder. I think that’s probably a weee bit easier to do than to convince them to release and bug test a dozen different patches.
It doesn’t have to be a dozen. Just pick one patch for each phase, so like 4-5.
Alright and what happens when people discover something that was absolutely busted in an earlier patch and it makes all content a joke? What about when all the Shamans that now have T2 can abuse the 3 piece bonus for Chain heal that was nerfed in a later patch move into TBC?
If your primary reason for wanting patch progression is for PVE content to be more difficult, it would make far more sense to just outright buff that content.
Yeh I think we should have changes in TBC.
First off I’d like to see Demon Hunters added to TBC, they should add some Torghast to, maybe rework all the classes, and add battle pets as well and the achiev system.
Maybe put in dual spec and LFR and add wow tokens.
You see the reason why “no changes” is good, is because if you “change” the game your not playing TBC anymore.
People like OP are morons that don’t understand when you allow changes you open pandoras box and literally every moron starts demanding ludicrous demands for changes that suit them.
If we allowed changes for classic, it wouldn’t be classic, people want to play classic as it was back in 2004, its not meant to be a perfect flawless game, stop trying to make it one.
If you do not enjoy Classic or TBC for what is it, then you should piss off and find another game, you arn’t a fan, your a tourists trying to make the game closer to your own playstyle.
The pro changes crowd are some of the dumbest people you’ll ever meet, not a single person that wants changes can ever coherently agree on what is a good change, everyone has their own personal idea on what changes would make this game great, and all of their idea suck.
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