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You must be new to WoW?
Outlaw is balanced around 5 buff rolls this patch. Go get the set bonuses and makes sure to talent into Sleight of Hand.
I warned you that RTB determines a lot of what damage Outlaw can do now which is similar to Legion.
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Bro RTB is not the problem idk when you’ll learn.
Coup de grace barely hits for 1mil our spenders barely hit for 1mil that’s the problem. Meanwhile 1 warlock chaos bolt hits for 7mil.
Idk how many times I gotta spell it out for you
They will never really buff spenders that much as long as 5 roll RTB exists lol. Welcome back to Legion game play.
You do not play RTB because RTB plays for you.
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I fail to see the title of Blizz Developer in your name.
Don’t tell me what they can’t and won’t do.
Literally created my own thread about this because i feel the same way. Why is Outlaw always dumped on man… I just want to be able to enjoy the game just as everyone else. 4 Set this patch feels like it did absolutely nothing.
Also, I did not play Outlaw in Legion, nor do I really care how it played in Legion because that was several years ago at this point. Instead, lets talk about why Outlaw is bad now and how they can fix it. Stop making the class purely RNG based blizzard, it’s unfair to people playing the spec who want to use Swords as a rogue. If you don’t want people playing the spec, please continue the path your on with it and just eventually remove it. Outlaw felt phenomenal last patch and I felt one with my parties, now I feel depressed to be in raid - doing barely as much dps as a tank…
What are we doing here. Also, stop trying to force me to play specs I don’t want to play. I just wanna play what I have fun with, it’s why I pay monthly for your game.
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I am trying to help you cope because this is the reality.
RTB is back to determining what you can do. Lets be real.
It is pure RNG because the entire spec is balanced around 5 buff rolls. Outlaw eats a penalty for it in everything else.
And Outlaw gets a nerf. It’s gg. Might as well unsub.
We also had a Shadow nerf to Feint (applicable to all rogue specs). While Elusiveness is talented into, Feint no longer gives the 40% AOE Damage Reduction in PvP only.
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The incompetency is so unreal at this point. See ya’ll.
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That was a while back but yeah right now BlizZard doesn’t like Rogues lol.
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Blizzard needs to bring back the 30% armor pen debuff to ambush back and just call it a day for Outlaw. It’s just that easy.
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Do you guys not look at the logs outlaw is currently the 2nd highest performing spec in the raid. Blizzard always nerf the top specs instead of buffing the lower ones
u do realize their mainly talking about pvp and not pve right?
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what i think thy should do is nerf blade flurry by like 40% and buff all are single target by 15% on generators and 25% on spenders so we arent so reliant on people stacking in arena and bgs
Don’t bring logic here. Rtb rng is the reason why all these good players do trash dps. Surely nothing else
You mean in Mythic raid? Where we still don’t have enough logs to actually make a reasonable assessment of that data yet?
Check Heroic raid, where the numbers are actually normalized with a decent number of logs. Outlaw sits middle of the pack at best, and at worst is behind most specs.
Mythic kills still don’t have 50 logs to work with on 2 of the fights. You can not use that data to assess class balance. Don’t just throw out random data to support your opinion without understanding the reasoning for the data being where it’s at. Outlaw can and will drop in rankings over the coming weeks, as more people transition into Mythic and gear levels out.
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Outlaw will end up in the average to above average range. We might see Outlaw with another minor aura buff but that is to be determined.
im not an expert rogue player by any means but at the very least i’d suggest some changes such as:
a killing spree choice node that makes it a normal channel (without warping you around) or makes it use a fixed point like it does on certain enemies (king mechagon or anything else thats behind a ledge or is inside a bottomless pit)
maybe something like using blind giving you the benefit of being stealthed for a few seconds (given that airborne irritant + blinding powder are always taken together it could be an alternative to having to use vanish as a dps cd. also very thematic, to me at least)
Bring back season 1 tier set bonus.
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