No Alliance guilds have killed the restless cabal on mythic

Literally for this one affix and ONLY Night Elves, and Blizzard already stated that they were planning on making Reaping ignore Shadowmeld because of the outcry.

Or are you forgetting the fact Blizzard literally had to completely overhaul the Blood Elf Racial because it was so OP in M+ that they had to limit the amount of Blood Elves in a MDI group to 2 during Legion because people were stacking them?

(The fact they didn’t do that with Night Elves while Reaping is acting is shocking)

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How can you just fix a problem with inbalanced if it is the players choice to choose what faction they play? Blizzard isn’t the one mind controlling everyone who plays WoW to chose this or that faction.

WTH? This is something I never heard of before.

Blizzard already said they’re planning on adding incentives to raid as Alliance.

They just don’t know what yet, because they have to be careful after the backlash to Against Overwhelming Odds.

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So, pretty much giving the Alliance more welfare. Got it.

BRB, faction changing all my Alliance toons to Horde.

Also, Most players didn’t CHOOSE to raid as Horde. They got forced into it due to pre-WoD Horde racials being VASTLY overpowered compared to Alliance, and any serious raiders literally having no choice but to go Horde.

WoD they fixed it, and Alliance was overpowered for a patch, but they fixed it after Horde complained they were feeling forced to race change, and we have what we have now, where Horde has an advantage again, (and yes, although it’s only a 2-3% advantage, where most people consider it “slight,” min/maxers will still feel forced to go Horde, hence why most mythic raid guilds are still Horde.) Method, Limit, etc. have literally admitted this is why they are still Horde.


In reality, they really should remove any Performance Boosting Racials and make Racials completely aesthetic and non-perfomance affecting.

That way players can completely choose their races completely based on looks and what they WANT to play. Not at all based on performance.

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How the hell do you get forced to raid as Horde? And it was only in MoP where some racials on the Horde side were a bit better on top than what they were supposed to be.

And no, people didn’t get forced to go Horde to raid, they chose it, for any reason possible.

Some people care way too much about racials more than playing the game. You’re a perfect example of this right here.

And people did have a choice. They choose Horde. They didn’t have to come Horde, but no, they did choose to come Horde.

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You’re confusing what these mean. Most, as in the majority. Didn’t affect most players back then. High end players, yes. Top 50-level guilds, yes. Guess what doesn’t fall under “most”.

The horde racials have no advantage. Actually, in terms of hps and dps, the alliance racials are typically superior. So, again, you’re talking rot.

Limit and Method have both stated multiple times they are literally only horde for recruitment purposes. So unless you provide a source for your crap, no. They haven’t.

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It’s not just for reaping. Meld can be used to avoid certain targeted mechanics just like Vanish. It can be used to avoid having to waste a brez for death run skips. It can be used to let the healer meld and drink while in combat.

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Yes, I’m sure this is the sole reason the top guilds switched over to Horde.
:roll_eyes:

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Ah I see. So whole horde guilds are switching to alliance for the benefits of shadow meld in m+ and raids? No? I didn’t think so.

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Because that’s happened in the past 6 years the other way around, totally.

I mean, the alliance raid scene is dying for a reason.

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Yeah, but it has nothing to do with racials.

It does though. The snowball that started with them is still rolling. That and the completely broken state of the zandalari racial.

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Citation needed.

So guilds go horde for recruitment. Not racials. Racials haven’t been the reason since MoP.

Posting in a racials mattters thread.

/cast Arcane Torrent
/nothing happends cause its useless and runs away

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Which means something is needed to reverse the problem.

As far as the zandalari, all you have to do is avoid taking damage for 3-6 seconds. If you achieve that it’s by far the strongest racial in game. There’s a reason it’s been out hardly any time and is almost the most popular max level allied race.

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And can you give an example of where that’s overpowered in any of the three current raids.

So the racials are finally pretty balanced, and the solution is to re-break them, to make people go back? Then what/ Re-break them again, years from now?

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I don’t know what the solution is. Ping ponging players is one way I suppose. And all of them? If it is big enough to help players complete it who otherwise wouldn’t be able to, its broken. It can be used to easily correct a mistake soneone makes mechanically and keep whoever uses it alive without the healers having to waste time on them.

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I mean the only feasible thing they can do is eliminate the faction barrier for raiding.

But that’s a big topic in and of itself.

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