No Alliance guilds have killed the restless cabal on mythic

Technically, Alliance guild has killed it in top 10, well they would’ve if they hadn’t transfered Horde 2 months ago, so yeah.

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Well it can’t be for the winning story.

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That people like them? Balancing doesn’t cause mass migrations, only breaking/nerfing causes the top 0.01 percent of players to move. If you want people to flood back to Alliance you’ll need to unbalance their abilities, since people who only care about abilities won’t move from where they’re at if everything is balanced.

Not all the players who picked fotm classes are human. That assumption is based on nothing but idiocy and if continue to think that than you need to stop deluding yourself with this false idealism.

Yes, horde had, and still have a large advantage in PvE. Therefore there’s an imbalance. The same is true also for PvP. There is evidence of this. If they’re not going to fix faction imbalance might as well merge the factions at this point.

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What does being American have go do with faction choice? Some of us have played since the beginning and didnt think we should have to faction change for FotM garbage that changes in a couple patches.

If you look at the rankings now, it’s more even than it’s been recently.

I know that’s not saying much though.

So if the FOTM crowd all go alliance, it’s obviously because the alliance is OP.

But if they all go horde it must be because they just prefer the horde for astetic reasons?

Nice double standard you’ve got there. Wonderful bias, too.

You’re nowhere near discussing this in good faith. I think I’m done with you.

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Where. Point to it. And when doing so, make sure to shove your foot as far into your mouth as you can.

It’s not a double standard, you’re ignoring his point. The races used to be unbalanced, specifically around MoP-eras and prior. They were balanced out around WoD-Legion.

Top guilds went Horde when they were unbalanced. After the racials were balanced, those guild stayed Horde. Right now, Alliance actually have the stronger racials for PvE, by a small margin. The point is that the difference is small, because Blizzard is trying to keep the racials balanced, as they failed to do so in the past.

So why would they go back to Alliance, when the difference is small to nothing. The majority of top end players are Horde, due to the no longer existent imbalance, so switching to Alliance would cause an issue with recruitment.

They’re not going to re-break the game just so a few guilds go Alliance. You’re delusional.

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I play a human irl, why would I want to play one in my fantasy escape world?

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Drez nailed the point I was trying to make.

There’s not going to be any mass migrations between the factions (for the top of the top and their fans) as long as the racials are balanced as they are.

They would have to induce an imbalance, as the beginning of Season 2 Against Overwhelming Odds rewards showed.

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I mean Baskin Robbins carries Vanilla ice cream so i have to assume its for a reason

Some people arent that adventurous and prefer to be boring

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I’m not missing anything.

If they went alliance because every man was OP, but now things are balanced, like you claim, there would be no reason for all of them to go horde like they did.

Why are they all horde?

All of them.

These are players who will swap for a perceived 1% advantage.

So, if the alliance racials are better again, why are they all suddenly not going back to the alliance for the advantage?

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You did miss something, ironically.

Both your points are just you missing things, yet you opened with “I’m not missing anything”…?

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Name checks out.

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Because whatever small nearly insignificant bonus the Alliance may or may not have is not enough as perceived by them to cause them to completely rock the boat and mass migrate.

I didn’t miss anything.

Horde has a community-driven advantage that must be addressed somehow. You cannot promote competition and then allow one side to utterly dominate like this, in this way. It’s not healthy for the game.

Where we fully are is that simply giving one faction some kind of mechanical advantage, like an OP racial ability, isn’t going to fix anything.

However, how do you purpose the factions get evened out? How do you break up the stranglehold the horde has on the hardcore community?

We cannot allow the factions to remain this one sided forever. It’s not healthy for the game, and it’s not fair to the half of the player base who actually prefer to play alliance.

It is a problem. You cannot convince me otherwise. We need a way to fix the imbalance.

So what would you suggest?

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I don’t. It really doesn’t matter, and I don’t actually care.

The high end community cares about progression. You care about your…rp, or faction war, or whatever. The high end level of play has nothing to do with you.

How is it unhealthy? Tell me. When were you planning to go for world first? World top 5? 10? 100? You weren’t, were you?

It’s an issue because you want it to be. There are multiple high end alliance guilds. Join them, or continue to play in a way where none of that actually effects you.

Based on what.

Good stance to take in a debate.

How about, not a damn thing.

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The horde are raiding mythic. The alliance are raiding the unsub button. Lol bfa.

Seriously kids. Doing m+ and raiding on alliance is hardmode without any payoff. Don’t believe me? Try it.

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alliance have better M+ racials. it all works out in some way :slight_smile:

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