Nightstalker or Subterfuge

Which one of these is the go to talent for sub rogue PvP atm?

Night stalker.

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I flicking hate not having subterfuge

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Subterfuge with MotMA is extremely strong. Nightstalker or even Shadow Focus otherwise. In short, without the legendary Subterfuge is a fairly awful choice.

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Shadow Focus is just too good to let go of. I’m never starved for energy.

Subterfuge with mota. If you can re-stealth pretty consistently this is by far the best way to go.

You guys realize MOTA also works with nightstalker too right?

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If you’re going to use the crit legendary Nightstalker is going to yield better results, especially with an on-use damage trinket like Drest or the raid one off Sire. Otherwise you’ll probably see results with Subterfuge.

I still have no idea how Drest is OP still at level 60. Blizzard sometimes…

yea but with subterfuge your burst isnt all tied to dance. Allows for alot better sustain in bgs. Also allows you to burn dance later in the rotation which will be the way to go once people are geared anyhow.

You should be running enveloping shadows and with that nighstalker is better because of the uptime.

Ive been running deep shadows with subterfuge. Idk it just feels better to me. I havent found myself needing that 2nd dance yet.

it legitly takes 2 minutes to fix it.
THeres one answer though, they don’t know and if they don’t know is that they don’t even play the game at a certain level

Subterfuge in Arena. Nightstalker is nice in bgs and such though.