well ive played pvp server for decades, usually support it, but in this case its different. youd have to look into more to understand.
Well you keep saying this, and I have done the incursions. I did them from launch. So you either want to agree to disagree or you want to keep arguing with me. If itâs the latter YOU need to explain it better.
Because so far itâs that PVP happened and you werenât happy about it. And so far nothing you have said changes that.
Well its not pvp its psvp. As in players vs player, i belive is what op is trying to say. Oh and 5 level 50 players vs probably 1 level 40ish. Wow doesnt have open world pvp it has open world attack only with advantage on a disadvantaged oppenent .
I could take the whole pvp happend quip more seriously if they just said ganking happend on a ganking enabled sever
World PVP is inherently unfair. Thereâs no enforced team size, or level restrictions. Thereâs no limitation on classes. No rules for engagement. You canât fight over restricted objectives. It is raw and it is brutal and it is unfair. And it is INTENDED that way.
It is not like a PVP server is the baseline way the game is played or promoted content, it is a mode of gameplay, much like Hardcore is. Some people like Hardcore and some do not. Just as some people like the risk of unfair ganking and open world PVP for the benefit of being able to organically fight others.
That is what you sign up for on a PVP server.
Itâs one thing to say âMan, it feels bad to get ganked by a bunch of higher level players. That kind of sucks. Why are they even bothering?â and itâs another to claim that the devs actively made a mistake and should take corrective action to put GUARDS in a hostile contested area because you want to quest uninterrupted.
People grief. It happens. But as long as there is a PVP solution to it, then Blizzard doesnât have a problem with it.
Roaming bands of level 50s in a level 40 zone? Fight back. Group up yourself. Call in friends, advertise in Local Defense, and if you canât win the PVP fight, leave.
Sitting in a neutral zone in a safe spot attacking a player so the guards donât aggro you, but if they attack back they get guard aggro? not a PVP solution and not acceptable, which is why safespotting will get you banned.
Everyone posting âPvP on a PvP serverâ is missing the point. The event is unplayable if you are not on the faction zerging down the other players. I enjoy pvp. I do not enjoy being stuck behind a permanant 2 minute rez timer or being unable to turn in quests while leveling because there are 10-20 players of the opposing faction camping the quest NPC.
Did PvP happen on a PvP server again?
No you are missing the point. We arenât saying that it is fair. We are saying it is unfair and thatâs WHAT you signed up for on a PVP server. If it is unplayable because you are losing the fights in the zone, that sucks and is too bad. But you decided that was something you wanted to risk happening by rolling on a PVP server. There was an option that was quite fair available to you. It is called a PVE server.
It sounds like you would prefer playing on a PVE server then.
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Amideus has absolutely no friends in real life, dudes a loser who just comes to the forums to give his nonfactor feedback.
Isnt griefing against ToS? I play on a gank enabled server it doesnt bother me. But i do understand peoples frustrations when they put a pve event in gank enabled zone.
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being killed in world PVP is not griefing. This has been addressed for 20 years. It doesnât matter if you are a level 1 and the people that killed you were all level 60s in a 40 man raid, itâs not considered griefing.
So then donât play on a PVP enabled server? I really do not understand how hard this is to grasp. You make a choice to play on a server where you are forcibly flagged in the open world that is entirely on you. This is the intended design of a PVP server.
I believe this is actually working as intended. If they wanted to restrict pvp in the nightmare, they would have just done that.
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Man Iâve never seen people get so fired up over pvp happening on a pvp serverâŚ
Thatâs a lie I definitely have
Because people donât want PvP anymore, even on a PvP server.
There is a reason why that if you opened up free transfers, SoD servers would turn into 99/1 faction imbalanced servers just like they did on Era.
At that point, the people who actually want WPvP would join the 1% and enjoy being outnumbered 99 to 1, but as we have seen numerous times before, that segment of the population is microscopic.
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they just need to add a npc like the troll for STV that disables pvp in these zones
Itâs a feature you pudding head.
You literally just said people like to griefâŚ
Indeed. Same as it ever was haha
Hilarious projection irony. âYouâre a badâ is the perennial first resort of the Blizz forum poster who desperately loves a broken or suboptimal feature when responding to someone leveling some legitimate criticism or concern at it.
Also then by your logic, raids and dungeons should no longer be instanced on pvp servers. Its not ok that i can pve all day with out fear of pvp on a pvp server.
What does this mean? Explain this? This is meaningless. Where did I say that anywhere in my post?
There are two server types, PVP and PVE. PVE servers have protections in place so that you can quest in populated areas without fear of being ganked or killed unless you engage in fighting by choice. PVP servers have no protections and you are forcibly flagged in any contested or hostile area and are able to be attacked and killed at will. These are BOTH intended designs. Donât want to be attacked in populated world quest areas? Play on a PVE server. It is literally that simple.
How is that by my logic at all? At no point did I say this, nor does it make sense at all. Youâre just trolling.
Bc pve at all times should be conestable on a pvp server. You stated contested zones are pvp enabled. So if a raid or dungeon is in a contested zone, it should no longer be instanced on a pvp server bc its PVE.
You stated people grief sometimes , and as long as pvp is an awnser blizz is ok with it.
Im confused by this. Your ok with ganking but pvp people on pvp severs not ok with killing quest npcs and call it griefing