Nightborne Playable Race? Idbecoolif!

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Nightborne deserve to be playable rather than Arrakoa, and I believe they are the best candidates for a new race in World of Warcraft. Blizzard since Panda's has added a neutral banner, to accommodate for fresh, undecided races, (and to cut down on production time). I don't see them adding two new, faction exclusive races ever again, like Ogres, High elves etc... But I think it's better to focus on a single new race, and make sure it has a good story, and design to attract players. Pandaria had a ton of lore that couldn't be appreciated, because who really wants to play a Panda?

Legion offers the best questing experience of any expansion, I find myself, and many others, loving the Elf themed content, Suramar, and the Nightborne story, which leaves us wanting more! Shal'dorei are such an interesting race, I would despise seeing them extinct for another raid tier... They are worth keeping around into WoW's future, and deserve more spotlight. Nightborne can be playable, and this is the direction I would take them.

After the events of Legion, Azeroth's needs for new allies has never been more dire; if we wan't to take the fight to Sargeras, we are going to need all the help we can get. Shouldn't the factions take responsibility for dismantling their society, shattering the lives of countless innocents, leaving them to wither from their addiction. Nightborne are not all evil, and wish to follow the Legion. Thalryssa, the other rebels, and the remaining Shal'dorei survivors willing to fight, should be added to the neutral banner.

Before a race becomes playable it needs to fit certain criteria.
    What can they offer the factions, and what can the factions offer them: The Shal'dorei probably have insight to the Legion, are the most magically adept elves, with valuable teachings that could benefit the mages of all other races. In return the factions can offer their protection, and perhaps a solution to their arcane dependency.

    Can they be a variety of the already existing classes?... Yes!

    Will people enjoy playing them? They're an elf, with the best of both worlds!.. Yes!


Storyline:

Starting off in Suramar the player could follow the event's of Legion, as they struggle to fight their cursed addiction, and break free from the Nightwell. The remaining Shal'dorei now look to their elven relatives for survival.

    Alliance: You have chosen to combat your addiction, by getting back in touch with natural energies. Kaldorei Society since the Cataclysm has accepted mages, and their teachings, and that's exactly what the Nightborne have to offer in return for rehabilitation. You and your people pledge your allegiance to Tyrande, Malfurion, and the Alliance!

    Horde: You have chosen to combat your addiction, with conviction, looking to those with experience, The Sin'dorei. In lore the Horde is lacking in mages, and you and your people have pledged your allegiance to Lor'themar, Rommath, and the Horde!


Classes:
    Warrior
    Hunter
    Rogue
    Priest
    Mage
    Warlock
    Warlock, or Paladin: Horde/ are more lenient when it comes to demons, especially Blood Elves who merely see them as servants to powerful magisters. If the Blood Elves share their Sunwell, perhaps the Nightborne could learn to become Palidans, but idk if I like this idea.

    Druid: Alliance/ mana saber cat form would just look soooo dope! Herbal remedies in lore are one of the only cures to magic addiction that I'm aware of.

    Demon Hunter: Maybe a stretch, but if both of the elves can learn to be Demon Hunters, than why shouldn't they. I'm sure Elisande, and her dealings with the Legion has given them a reason to despise demons.


Disclaimer: Blizzard can take their story in any direction they want, and make this a reality any way they choose. They might just dispose of them, but these are just some of my simple ideas of what could be #masterrace! Thanks for reading, would love to hear your thought's, criticisms, and feedback! ♥
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All they need to do is give them their own skeleton/Animations
I would buy a race change in a heartbeat.
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Oh good, just what we need, more elves.
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I don't think I've been more interested in the story since Legion, it feels like a breath of fresh air from all the orc, panda, and troll story we've gotten in recent expansions. I would play the !@#$ out of the Nightborne race, and will be rerolling a handful of my characters if this ever happens. I really like your simple story line, and can see Blizzard taking a lot from this Please Blizz! Manasaber form OP!
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The list of races that should be playable grows after every expansion is released, with people making posts like these arguing for the new races introduced to be made playable immediately, not realizing (or caring) that said list is already long as it is with plenty of arguments to made for the list of races that are not, yet, playable.

In other words, get to the back of the line.
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01/29/2017 01:23 PMPosted by Ehcks
Oh good, just what we need, more elves.


As said by... an elf.

Is this some kind of weird elvin trick?
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Blizzard has stated that they hate how pandas turned out, and they are never making a neutral race again.
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They are basically just NE.
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I don't see a point in adding another elf race, especially ones so similar to Night Elf because...

01/29/2017 01:43 PMPosted by Hamstar
They are basically just NE.


This.

I'm not even sure if there's all that much difference between them. Maybe just leaner? I'm pretty sure they use the same cast animations.

Any new races we get should continue to feel like diversifying the selection. They've talked about sub-races someday, and if they're ever going to do that that would be the place to put similar races together.

01/29/2017 01:43 PMPosted by Phlynch
Blizzard has stated that they hate how pandas turned out, and they are never making a neutral race again.


I saw a tweet saying they weren't a fan of it, but I don't think I'd go so far as hate/completely turned off to it unless there's other discussion about it.

But yeah I think one of the main problems neutral races have is trying to differentiate between them in PvP (doesn't really affect me I guess) since when you see a Tauren lumbering toward your Human character you don't need to check if the name is red or not. You know it's about to get super serial up in here. Pandas? Not so much.
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01/29/2017 01:43 PMPosted by Phlynch
Blizzard has stated that they hate how pandas turned out, and they are never making a neutral race again.


They need to just lose the whole faction divide. Outside of PVP realms there is no point in continuing this pointless infighting. It seems like every expansion there's this new enemy that threatens to kill everyone but nooo we can't let go of this hatred between us because: reasons. If anything they need more neutral possibilities. I'm so over the whole, sorry I can't play with half my friends because I pretty much main Horde and leveling an Ally takes more time than I can devote to level and gear a third character.
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01/29/2017 01:49 PMPosted by Ashelyn
They need to just lose the whole faction divide. Outside of PVP realms there is no point in continuing this pointless infighting. It seems like every expansion there's this new enemy that threatens to kill everyone but nooo we can't let go of this hatred between us because: reasons. If anything they need more neutral possibilities. I'm so over the whole, sorry I can't play with half my friends because I pretty much main Horde and leveling an Ally takes more time than I can devote to level and gear a third character.


I think the main problem with the faction divide is that they continue to have us band together to fight bad things while trying to argue it's alive still. We just seem to hate each other because we have to hate each other.

I'd be fine with the faction divide forever if they built the story up around that. Instead it's just constant "We hate you, but the enemy of the enemy is our friend and we'll tolerate you because of that" and it never ends.
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Thanks for the love guys! ♥

01/29/2017 01:38 PMPosted by Murdra
The list of races that should be playable grows after every expansion is released, with people making posts like these arguing for the new races introduced to be made playable immediately, not realizing (or caring) that said list is already long as it is with plenty of arguments to made for the list of races that are not, yet, playable.

In other words, get to the back of the line.


The list of races does grow every expansion, but very few are actually suitable to be played. Regardless of how long the list is, they are the most suitable candidate. I'm tired of seeing comments like this, from people who don't bother to read, or have very little literary, and debate skills. I'm not asking for immediate access to Nightborne. The Nighthold just dropped, and I'm sure they have much more story planned for Legion. As suggested, once the events of Legion blow over, they should become playable for next expansion. Who is their competition, Ogres?, Arrakoa, Broken, Spore people, Tuskar, Taunka, Mantid, Youngol, Naga, Harpies, Centaur, Murlocs, Gnolls, Pigmy, Dragons, Suurok, lions, tigers, and bears oh my?! I don't think so, unless you can give me any other examples. A race must be unique, and a neutral elf would be, they also must have something to offer the factions, and vice versa. None of these races are good contenders because they are either hostile, we have something similar, or belong on a different planet with very little to due with Azeroth. Therefor the list is not as big as you make it out to be, unless you can offer any other suggestions I may have missed. (High elves already belong to the Alliance, and share the same model as blood elves, so why?)
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I think a better way would be for them to give us an Orb of the Shal'dorei, that worked exactly like the Orb of the Sin'dorei, except it lasted until cancelled.
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alright lads, you can have nightborne
just let me play ogre.
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01/29/2017 02:16 PMPosted by Duronir
alright lads, you can have nightborne
just let me play ogre.


I want to be a Naga.
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01/29/2017 01:56 PMPosted by Clovus
A race must be unique, and a neutral elf would be


Only from the aspect of them starting as neutral, but not unique in terms of already being an elf.

Therefor the list is not as big as you make it out to be, unless you can offer any other suggestions I may have missed.


I imagine Blizzard has a laundry list of races they plan to add or at least are seriously considering. Maybe Nightborne is on it, but I kind of doubt it. Especially if they really aren't a fan of the neutral race concept.

Your attacks on other races seem rather opinionated. Ultimately Blizzard can/will weave lore as much as they want to make those races work if they decide to add them. Just look at stuff like Tauren Paladins and Troll Druids. There really wasn't any basis for them, but they just created background for why they can harness the light/druidic nature stuff.

(High elves already belong to the Alliance, and share the same model as blood elves, so why?)


Again, Nightborne share a very similar model as Night elf, so if you're going to say there's no reason to give Alliance High Elves AKA Blood Elves but with blue eyes you're getting pretty hypocritical there.
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I really don't see them losing the faction divide because It does make for interesting gameplay, and is a part of WoW's identity! As a new player, you thought factions were cool, only until you realized all of the restrictions that separate the two. I think the system could be improved, and holds a lot of unnescessary boundaries. Why can't the races understand each-other by now, you would think that they would at least try to study the opposing language for tactical reasons etc... I think they need to preserve this diversity, because wow has slowly felt like less of a rpg... Regardless, this thread isn't about that.

01/29/2017 01:43 PMPosted by Hamstar
They are basically just NE.

At a basic level, gnomes are short 4 fingered humans, dwarfs are short hairy humans, Forsaken are dead humans, goblins are little trolls, and elves are humans with pointy ears... That's your argument?

01/29/2017 01:43 PMPosted by Phlynch
Blizzard has stated that they hate how pandas turned out, and they are never making a neutral race again.


They have not said they will never make a neutral race again, but they have said that Pandas were unsuccessful, but who wants an entire expansion dedicated to an unpopular race of furries?

Elves will always dominate the fantasy genre, and prove to be popular. The Neutral banners underlying purpose was to be more accommodating for new races, and so Blizzard doesn't have to sink a bunch of time, and resources to create 2 new races every other expac.
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nothing like being able to play a junkie.
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At a basic level, gnomes are short 4 fingered humans, dwarfs are short hairy humans, Forsaken are dead humans, goblins are little trolls, and elves are humans with pointy ears... That's your argument?


You are really grasping at straws.

Tauren are also like night elfs...just bulkier and harrier and they have horns.
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01/29/2017 01:56 PMPosted by Clovus
A race must be unique, and a neutral elf would be


Only from the aspect of them starting as neutral, but not unique in terms of already being an elf.

Therefor the list is not as big as you make it out to be, unless you can offer any other suggestions I may have missed.


I imagine Blizzard has a laundry list of races they plan to add or at least are seriously considering. Maybe Nightborne is on it, but I kind of doubt it. Especially if they really aren't a fan of the neutral race concept.

Your attacks on other races seem rather opinionated. Ultimately Blizzard can/will weave lore as much as they want to make those races work if they decide to add them. Just look at stuff like Tauren Paladins and Troll Druids. There really wasn't any basis for them, but they just created background for why they can harness the light/druidic nature stuff.

(High elves already belong to the Alliance, and share the same model as blood elves, so why?)


Again, Nightborne share a very similar model as Night elf, so if you're going to say there's no reason to give Alliance High Elves AKA Blood Elves but with blue eyes you're getting pretty hypocritical there.


No I am not hypocritical, you just missed my points. There can be another neutral elf, I've also pointed out similarities in our already existing roster of races...
Races can be similar, and still be unique, Especially involving story. Thanks tips, like I didn't realize Blizzard writes the story, and can take it in any direction they please in order to create fun gameplay...

And what would this 'laundry list' consist of, I've listed most of the existing races, and few are suited to be played. You have to keep in account, that the races have to interact without looking awkward, and that's why murlocs to dragons will never be considered. Multiple elves have proven to work in the past, Blood Elves were a massive success, and super popular, even if you don't like the people playing them! Night elves have a strong player base as well, what makes you think Nightborne would be any different? They are similar to Kaldorei, but that's because they use the same skeleton, and animations currently. That is why High Elves wouldn't work, not because they couldn't get a new model, but they wont. They are Blood Elves with blue eyes, whereas Nightborne have purely silver eyes, curled ears, darker skin, they are shorter, and are known for their lavish jewlery, and arcane markings... They are simply more unique, and Blizzard could push them further with their own character models.

These are not opinions, or attacks, they are observations, that can be commonly observed by anyone with a working pair of eyes... As WoW players, I think that goes for all of us. From the eyes of a new player, with no knowledge of the story, they see (or at least myself, and the friends I've introduced to the game see) Day Elves vs, Night Elves... Orcs, Cows, Trolls, and smaller trolls vs, Humans, spacegoats, and smaller humans. No matter how Blizzard writes the story, Nightborne are currently the best candidate for a new race...