Nobody has any kind of ethical obligation to read your internet posts.
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Only Garrosh fit a fascist metaphor because they actually wrote it that way.
The weird āHigh King is okay, Warchief isnātā just reeks of indulging into idealistic fantasy while having an incredibly limited understanding of what a fascist government is. While I do think things like colonialism often have fascist elements, they do not require a sort of situation in the culture performing it that resembles what happened with Germany and Japan.
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Oh no, not idealistic fantasy in my fantasy video game. Anything but that
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Not at all, but still kinda wack.
And I mean, sheās only talked about BLM once in her whole life, last summer when it was āpopularā to do among corporations, and for all her love of Baine and Tauren stuff (allegedly), and similar to her Twitter recognition Orcs are somehow a Jewish metaphor (donāt even want to get into that rn), youād think she would also care about IRL indigenous struggles, eg NoDAPL movement a few years back.
Alas.
In your two faction video game, where both factions are supposed to be idealistic/idealized fantasies
But no, the writers suck
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Like as far as liberals go, theyāre low effort and aggressively centrists, and painfully (somehow) unaware of history.
I mention again: they learned about the Tulsa Massacre this year (probably because of Lovecraft Country lol)
Which doesnāt bode well for the game given all of this game is a complex multi-layered amalgamation of various IRL modern fiction, traditional folklore and myths, and actual historical events.
You can only write what you know or at least are aware of and if you know nothing well lmao
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The idealism represented in a piece of fiction needs consistency.
Either a single person with the vast majority of power is inherently wrong, or it isnāt. There is nothing that would really stop a High King having an identical arc to Garrosh if Blizzard wanted it to, as Wyrnns were overwhelmingly presented as just Blue Warchief.
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I think that thereās a meaningful distinction between a post-Magna Carta monarchy and a military dictator.
Consistency? In Warcraft? For the narrative? Which would require forethought and balance?
How D A R E you suggest such a thing!
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Can this phrase be reversed so that it is directed against the opponents of NE?
That implies a level of political development Blizzard isnāt willing to explore.
Ariel thinks Erevien is a good poster that makes valuable contributions to the forum
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If they developed humanity in the context of the Alliance more like I advocate weād probably see it explored more.
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Heās certainly the only one keeping this forum alive outside of the rest of us bemoaning the failure of the writers in every facet of this game (factional fantasy, racial fantasy, class fantasy) eveyr 2-3 days
I guess I never considered the āat least itās fun to laugh at the freakā angle
Monarchy only with people? Why not the trolls?
Heās not a freak.
A Gay Neo-German-Fascist from Actual Germany yes
But heās our Box Ghost.
Considering how Horde ādevelopmentā went, in which most of the reasons it did what it did were basically hand waved by Lorāthemar and Thrall saying vague things like āSylvanas abused and fanned their hatredā, I wouldnāt count on it.
Be ready for every disagreement be solved by it turning out the opposition is evil and needs to be killed and pockets emptied of loot.
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3 reasons:
- The elements of the human political system are already set up since we know that the the governance of the major human kingdoms (at least Stormwind, Gilneas, and Lordaeron) is styled after late medieval feudalism.
- Human monarchs wield more power and influence than Troll monarchs, so exploring it would contribute more to worldbuilding
- Hot take: Humans (specifically playable non-Kul Tiran humans) actually need development more than trolls right now. Itās a common fallacy on these forums that the presence of humans is the same as development for humans when it isnāt. Aside from the introduction of a few characters, human society hasnāt actually been meaningfully developed since Vanilla, and that development was basically an echo of Warcraft 3.
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When it comes to the mainland EK (Non Kul Tiran/Gilnean) Humans, part of me would like to see a reborn Arathorian Empire under the rule of Turalyon. Especially given the now shared identity much of the mainland humans probably have with so many of them having been shuffled around as the different kingdoms fell and then were retaken. Another plot for the EK humans that i donāt think has ever been brought up yet is the situation with Stromgardeās crown. As far as we know Danath doesnāt have any kids. And thereās no other named Trollbanes around to be his heirs.
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well for one:
Ereviens posts stuff that makes more sense than ALOT of other peoples posts.
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