The amount of customization attention the Night Elves have seen in the past few years is more than a “bone”. Try playing a Pandaren for a change, 4 hairstyles in 10 years hardly a perk.
I don’t think it’s nearly as extreme as some people argue. But it’s insane how disproportionate the focus is on for any alliance race besides humans, but is also extremely negative in basically every single showing. Not just in the story (it’s endless 24/7 retcons there, every single acknowledgement of NE lore brings retcons at this point), on a level of their own interactions with the community.
Like, this is clearly partly meant on a joke: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3caUsrsAqeA
But it does kinda show how blizzard views 'em. They do not see the warriors whose music in wc3 had strong drums, ominous pipes and hyms, stuff that denotes ancient mystery and fear of what lurks in dark places you’re not meant to tread. They are, in their own way, as metal as Orcs and Undead in Wc3… where is -any- acknowledgement of that?
The people who handle assets and graphics seem to be the only ones who actually care lmao. But even then, they screwed up the body tattoos and they look awful rn.
I had no issues with the quest and loved how they extended the honor of tattoos to the males at the end of the questline. Really nice touch.
As for the set itself, I quite like it. It’s nice that the color matches our undies so I can hide my chest piece and get closer to what the She NElf Druid is wearing in the original Vanilla cinematic.
I also think they need to make the blue tint available as well without any gatekeeping or Mythic hoops to jump through.
Hope they get it fixed on the armory asap.
The armor was fine, the fact we can’t get the blue tint even though they showcase it is likely them being lazy and having it for some future questline. The issue I have is the quest line was forgettable and meaningless at best and full of retcons, half baked ideas, and a singular lack of care.
I would like to know how one of the most stubborn Night elf characters ever written suddenly just accepts an extremely young male mage into the wardens in basically an afternoon. Granted he was written like a bigger wunderkind than Wesley from TNG, but not quite Medan levels of Mary Sue.
Well, I just did the quest. I agree it felt more like something from Legion that was cut for time and reused, however luckily I didn’t experience any of the problems outlined by other players. Perhaps they hotfixed it or something.
Now that i think about it just making it take place in Darkshore probably would have made it a lot better. Having it take place in a zone the Nightelves have never been shown ingame to fully own and that most people skipped other than to farm felcloth in vanilla, was a bad choice. Theres no real attachment to felwood or incentive to getting this single barrow back when the still screwed over darkshore is right next to it.
Could have kept pretty much the same story structure of you, Maiev and a male mage go cleanse a moonwell (Tyrande’s nightwarrior one if you wanna add some extra magic stakes) because its being attacked by a demon cult and thats stalling the effort to fully re-settle and cleanse darkshore.
Mage proves himself and his loyalty to the Kaldorei, justifying the new male tattoo options and finishing Maiev’s mage hate arch (it was already pretty much finished in legion with Jarod hand waving it in blackrook) and then when you get back to stormwind the Refugees are gone having been relocated into the now fully cleansed Darkshore, updating the world and showing the Nelves actually getting some progress in since the tree burned.
shoulda gave us that mog the nelf was wearing in the classic video tbh.
Anymore?
They never knew how to write them in the first place.
Why the heck would a species that fought the demon horde and the Old Gods 10,000 years ago and still has living members who met the Titans and saw them shape Azeroth start worshipping dumb animals?
Total complete nonsense.
Elves should be portrayed as the absolute masters of magic and Azeroth at large, not humans or orcs as both of those species are dumb and shortlived.
Thrall and that stupid human need to be killed off immediately. They needed to killed off during Wrath.
Instead elves of all kinds are irrelevant punching bags.
Blood Elves haven’t been relevant since The Burning Crusade when their only major NPC was killed off, twice.
Yeah but we’re in dragonflight and there’s this entire elemental battle about azeroth’s aspects equivalent to the elements. Where the heck is the Earthen Ring and Thrall and Magatha and all the others?
I mean Maiev in a novel was literally a mass murdering crazy killing all the highborne who rejoined the night elves
But it’s fine because basically pre-teen wunderkind mage was good so its ok to uproot thousands of years of tradition and distrust now.
Escort quests are the lowest form of quests. There I said it. Escorting Maiev was a cop out. She’s already powerful and more than capable of defending herself and the Wonder Twins. Having a god/titan/dragon/elemental lord killer there felt like overkill. It was like asking Rambo to kill a spider.
NPC is either too slow or too fast. Instead of helping or hiding they usually just stand there like big dumb donkeys. That whole quest chain could have been condensed into a fifteen minute play session with out all the stopping and pointing at the bloody torch I just extinguished.
Never before have I ever felt like pulling a Sean Connery on an NPC. Maiev came close. STOP POINTING!
Hide the chest piece on a female, and it’s very close.
Just remember. In a quest to celebrate the culture and heritage of a race. Especially one that’s been through a near mass extinction and an unfair amount of trauma in recent years. The message at the end of the day was “our culture needs to be something else. Screw traditions.”
Yes. A heritage quest about how traditions need to change. Quality message.
Well, I mean, yeah. The heritage quests are supposed to give an update to how the culture has progressed over the years, since most races haven’t gotten that much specific focus since their starting zones. No society should be stagnant.
Problem is, the traditions this quest focused on are all old news. Mages have been part of NE society since Cata, and no part of it has been gender locked (except, apparently, the Wardens) since Vanilla. Letting a male mage join a particular NE martial society is just like… alright? Cool, I guess? Good for this character we don’t know?
Considering everything that’s happened to NE over the last few expansions, making a heritage quest that laser focuses on such an irrelevant thing is disappointing, to say the least.
I guess the biggest irk for me about that is that historically whenever a group of people are butchered like night elves have been, the last thing they want to do is change their traditions and cultures. This was less a focus and celebration of their heritage and more a “By the way this very minor thing that affects almost nothing is different now.” especially since it was done by the single most stubborn night elf character in the game. Seemingly overcoming her distrust or mages in an afternoon because of some plucky kid.
To squander the OG feel and characteristics of the Night elves in WC3 is criminal.
Yeah, the Night Elf heritage questline was extremely boring, didn’t explore the race’s heritage in any way, and was badly designed.
It’s disappointing that we went from the Human and Orc heritage questlines to this.
Especially when you compare it to the Forsaken one, it’s very obvious where the effort went, and once again, it was not to the Night Elves. I agree, if they aren’t going to do them right, they should just leave them alone.
Quest didn’t feel like a heritage quest. Just felt like a quest that should have came out in cata to unlock night elf mages.