She found herself in a tough situation as the leader of a proud Elven nation. Then she made a deal with the Burning Legion to save her people.
In the process, she abandoned her people (banishing anyone who disagreed with the bargain from Suramar), she betrayed her people (basically selling them to the Legion) and she corrupted her people (turning some into Withered, others into Felsworn… some into fel spider things… etc).
Just like Kael’thas.
The Accuser says: I have found the heaviest burden on Kael’thas Sunstrider’s soul.
The Accuser says: How did Kael’thas fail his people?
The Accuser says: Did he abandon his people…
The Accuser says: …Betray his people…
The Accuser says: …Or corrupt his people?
The Accuser yells: Kael’thas Sunstrider committed all of these sins against his own people!
It stands to reason that if Kael’thas got Revendreth for doing the things, so did Elissande.
And they say the best way to learn… is to teach.
So I think the last step towards his redemption should be working on Elissande, a similar Elf with similar sins, to see the world from the Venthyr’s PoV.
Kael’thas was experimented on by Denathrius, who infused him with a lot of extra Anima and the sins of others.
That’s why his situation is so special and critical. That’s why he needs ultra fast redemption, instead of being locked in a tomb for centuries to think of what he did lol
Trick is the Arbiter being decommissioned. We know it happened likely not long after the Emerald Nightmare. So there’s a good chance Elisande is just in the Maw right now.
I think the biggest difference between them as far as sins go is the Elisande recognized she was wrong. She joined the Legion because that was the only future that she saw where her people weren’t exterminated. Once we beat her, she realized that her scryings could have been wrong (since she also saw no possibility of us beating her) and did what she could to help.
Kael’thas got killed, came back, and still helped the Legion corrupt the Sunwell. Even when you meet him in Revendreth he doesn’t really admit he was wrong. He just says he may have made some unwise decisions (and apparently wants to extend his losing streak to 0/3).
Elysande wasn’t insane though. She did everything bad in sober mind. You can’t redeem sane characters.
Arthas did nothing wrong because he was made insane. Kael’Thas did nothing wrong cause he tried to save people and went insane. Garrosh did almost nothing wrong (depends on perspective) and got insane.
Elysande was fine. She seen future and didn’t realise you can’t predict PC actions. And failed.
we have no idea how revendreth actually works. Jailer/Denathrius took Kael soul just because it was thicc and juicy, he doesn’t care about anything else.
It’s clear that during tempest keep and beyond Kael completely lost his mind.
And in Venthyr quests he’s only being reasonable. As blood elf myself i agree with that we must pursue KelThuzed and aveng corruption of sunwell and all those who died in Silvermoon. Accuser just doesn’t get it.
And no one who isn’t a blood elf will get it. This quest is insanely personal
It’s not clear exactly how something is deemed to be a sin. There are some obvious ones but some of the sinstones list pretty innocuous things as well.
He’s all for avenging what Kel did to the BEs but he doesn’t seem to care about what he did to his people. The first thing he said when I met him during the Necrolord missions this week was that he’d go for round 3 if he wasn’t shackled as if rounds 1 and 2 didn’t happen because he’d gone off the deep end and was actively harming his people.
He did nothing wrong at the moment. His people were dying with no mana with corrupted sunwell. Fel worked. Fel was nice. And since i’m a demon hunter i can only vouch for fel power - it’s great
Eh, by the time of sunwell patch he was completely under KilJaeden control, being pale and with felstone inside his chest. You really shouldn’t blame insane mind controlled people. It’s not like they could prevent it.
By this time Kael already died once, you could say he’s lost his head. Insane people need help, not punishment.