[News] Shadowlands Class Updates

I can’t believe I was dumb enough to get excited about the possibility of oldschool Subtlety Rogue returning.

Now I see that all that talk about unpruning and class fantasy was just lipservice.

I feel like a chump because I fell for it.

Hope you all enjoy Shadowlands. I won’t be playing it.

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THANK YOU!!! These changes are so much appreciated! I am so excited to have Eclipse back for balance, Xuen being baseline for ww, and so many more. YAY!

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If 2/3rd of monk specs and frost DKs can use 2-handed weapons again, what on earth is stopping enhancement shaman from getting the same thing? Hopefully it isn’t because we’ll be forced to deal with maintaining cumbersome weapon buffs on each 1-handed weapon; maintenance buffs restricting mechanics are not fun.

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I am super disappointed to see eclipse return, I thought we’d moved past that and were a lot happier now but maybe I’m out of touch with my balance buds and they all wanted this?

Stampeding roar is neat though, way better than ursoc’s like they planned.

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I really hope you guys consider making Rapid Reload baseline or a talent option for BM hunters. It has become so crucial to hunter gameplay and part of what makes our class viable in Mythic Dungeons. I would hate to see this go.

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Can we in the very least leave the wild stampede as the default but have glyph of stampede back and functioning again? I do need a pack of demonic hunting hounds :pleading_face:

I would still like a talent or ability to use Aimed Shot on the move.

Before anyone goes but all mm are snipers so they have to stand still .

Wrong all Snipers are MM but not all MM are snipers.

Being a MM is having the ability to hit a target with accuracy and there are plenty of people be it police , military and even trick shot artist that can do so while moving.

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With the changes to DKs and Monks why isn’t SMF being brought back? Warriors are masters of weapons - SMF needs to be brought back.

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Let’s change arms mastery to a new one like the extra swing one or more dmg on col smash. So let’s give fury smf back and even enhance let them twohander again.

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So Blizzard’s idea is to bring back button bloat? Typical sledge adjustment to something that only needed a tack.

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ITS EVERYTHING I WANTED FOR MARKSMANSHIP THANK YOUUUU

Only one thing could be awesome! Please please please consider making Master Marksman baseline? Or remove Precise Shots altogether so we can have the focus to pick other talents? As is our regen is so slow that we can’t choose Serpent Sting, Explosive Shot. Also A Murder of Crows baseline would be GREAT. You’re the best for listening Blizz!

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Played Death Knight for 10 years, day 1 of Wrath, stopped in BfA. Really glad to see all that is being done with DK. Excited about that.
However I main a Priest now, while the abilities aren’t flashy I really enjoy the Disc and Holy things.
I really dislike the Shadow things though. Going to make shadow a powerhouse on mass AoE, more so than they already are and continue to make their single target lackluster. I really hope this changes I would prefer if they got rid of the Void Form as it seems too difficult to properly balance given Legion and BfA now. It is cool that Surrender to Madness is coming back, but I feel like it will be similar to Legion where you have to start ignoring some mechanics so you dont just die. It is high risk high reward which is a cool concept for really high end play, but I feel like for the more casual scene this is a bit too risky to allow.

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Honestly, these were not the changes I was looking forward to. One of the reasons I thoroughly enjoy BFA is that specializations are so incredibly unique. IMO, the entire fantasy of a Frost spec, for example, rests on it’s Frost abilities - it just seems out of place to have a master of the frozen arts also casting Fire spells. It’s back to everyone being a jack of all trades. Likewise, there goes my entire Holy priest aesthetic. Sorry N’Zoth, but I want absolutely NOTHING to do with your void tentacle madness. Thank you, next.

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Shattering throw sounds nice to put uppity pallies in their place in PvP.

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Please add self healing for arms warrior that isnt victory rush

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Unless they’re adding more or making certain things baseline, that is a nerf to Guardian. Vortex+Typhoon is a good part of our kit for kiting in m+, especially during necrotic weeks. Part of the reason they even gave guardian Ursol’s Vortex as a talent is because we were lacking as tanks when it came to m+ iirc. I’m wary of them having a solution that fills this in after they took Mark of Ursol away mid Legion and never gave it back :confused:

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Their idea seems to be giving players choices. No one has to use all the abilities. Some players may want to use a spell that others can’t stand.

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Looking forward to playing with all these new abilities, but also hoping there are options for those who are wondering how they’re going to fit everything into their hotbars.

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I agree here - Other than die by the sword which has an obscenely long CD Arms warriors get absolutely crushed. Victory rush is nice but if it’s not up we are screwed.

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If we’re going to Shadowlands…Was there any thought to bringing back Exorcism or Holy Wrath for Paladins? I mean…the auras are cool but…shrug

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