New zone, Siren Isle/Arathi fans rejoice

The fact that he was mentoring Lufsela on how to properly commune with the stormrooks gave you the impression he was still struggling?

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Him struggling doesnā€™t mean he canā€™t teach others things he knows. When I see him wielding the elements again Iā€™ll believe he is back to Shaman competency. Though it wouldnā€™t surprise me if that just happened off camera and never got mentioned.

But he wouldnā€™t be in the right mental state to actually TEACH anyone if he was having his own personal issues still

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I hope they did, as this elemental issue is the most silliest things I have seen. Especially since there are so many other op powered characters out there. If they did then they need to come out and just state it as such.

However given what I have seen in game, he doesnā€™t use the elementals at all. He is just providing guidance, a lot of retired sportsmen become coaches doesnā€™t mean they can still play.

Nothing about the Koshā€™harg showed me he was struggling. He was going to partake in the right and so couldnā€™t lead it. Which is why Aggra was chosen. Not because he still struggled with his connection.

That plotline had ended in Shadowlands with Draka helping him with his guilt over Garrosh and then we saw him use the elements in SoD.

Then the TWW pre-release information said he still had issues. Which we havenā€™t seen anything of leading me to believe it was dropped.

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Inner guilt/conflict about Garrosh doesnā€™t suddenly rob Thrall of his knowledge about the process. Heā€™s basically just coaching her.

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Iā€™ll have to go play through it again, but I was almost positive Thrall mentioned his shamanic powers were not in a state to make him fit to preside over it. Drekā€™thar was not fit to make the trip, and he kinda cuts Thrall off like ā€œno, not you idiot, your wife.ā€

Which, as Gormur pointed out, was solved in SL with Draka helping him get over that. Itā€™s a dropped plot point at this stage and nothing suggest heā€™s still struggling

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When was the cinematic where heā€™s trying to meditate and gets frustrated? Canā€™t track it down.

Youā€™re thinking of the Xalā€™atath short cinematic where sheā€™s speaking about each of the leaders (Alleria, Anduin, Thrall) and when it gets to thrall you hear Xal mention his anger or something along those lines

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cool trailer I forgot about it

To quote one of the commentors there, Thrall wasnt have issue with the element, he just saw the elemental tree and realized he needed to take icefury.

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He is very clearly trying to Shaman and being very frustrated he cannot. That does not tell me that he is back to normal.

Yeah no Thrall still canā€™t light a fire. This plotbeat is absolutely not over somehow. That video makes it very clear.

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It hasnā€™t come up at all in the game though. Not even when he was helping that earthen shaman lady.

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Thrall seems pretty much in command leading the Horde fleet into Donegal Bay as well as being The Worldā€™s Greatest Detective in sussing out our releuctant stormrook caller.

What part of those translates into him not having his act together?

Here is the quest and exact lines.

https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/A_People_in_Need_of_Healing

Farseer Drekā€™Thar says: Ha! You are worthy indeed. But these old bones wonā€™t make it to Kalimdor. Another will have to preside over the Koshā€™harg.
Thrall says: If I am to complete the rite, I cannot lead theā€“
Farseer Drekā€™Thar says: Not you. Aggralan.
Aggra says: Me?
Farseer Drekā€™Thar says: Your strength speaks for itself. You are more than readyā€¦ Farseer.
Farseer Drekā€™Thar says: A title long overdue.
Aggra bows.
Aggra says: Iā€¦ I am honored.

I completely forgot about that video.

I know in the Beta they had Jaina mention how Thrall was struggling to connect with the elements. However this was dropped when TWW went live.

They could have dropped it for one reason or another (fan backlash?) or it will get revisted. Time will tellā€¦

Lufsela seemed like a good opportunity to explore the issue, but nothing.

I stand firm in my conviction that he will only be a true Shaman again when he dons the rest of his Doomplate and reclaims the Doomhammer. He is only missing the breastplate now.

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The fact that he isnā€™t a shaman, and is having elemental issues. Sure he mentors stromrook caller, but he is just advising. During all of his questing if you notice he uses warrior move sets.

Even Anduin who lost his light is back calling on the light. While Thrall been having elemental issues for a decade now. Maybe our expectation are different, but I want the one active horde character to actually have a story arch where he over comes his short comings and goes back to himself. There arenā€™t any power full horde characters having thrall back would be a great start.

I remember that line as well. Hopefully they dropped this stupid issue but I do not see thrall doing any shaman stuff either.