New xpack, all female leads? (Part 2)

so what everyone here saying is they dont want long term character development because Xpacs take to long its better everyone goes thru 2-3 years of character development in a quest chain they want there heros back years ago and now even if they return awsome everyone going hold some sort of grudge on the story team.

To be fair Alliance players have been watching like a decade of character development for Anduin only for them to completely undermine it all in Shadowlands so they can do another arc where the character has self doubt and loses their powers.

Which at this point I think is more common of an arc in this game than “the Horde gets a new warchief that goes crazy, tries to kill everybody, and becomes a raid boss”.

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I really liked the story so far, I finished the quests in just 2 days, I found all the characters interesting. I don’t understand the reason for this title, as we have several important male characters, such as Anduin, Thrall, among others.

I believe the issue is that some people are not used to seeing female characters represented as well as they are now.

The title “all female leads” is dishonest to say the least, as Anduin is clearly a very well constructed and important character.

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Ah yes, ‘the market dude.’

…who?

Do you even remember their name? Because I don’t.

What’s his name?

Anduin’s repeating his story arc from Legion, because the spooky sword mind controlled him- something Anduin had no problem doing himself- and made him stab some jobber NPC and then became a raid boss.

Problem has more to do with the fact that they’re the same character with slightly different paint jobs. We’re in our third straight expansion of poorly written characters, and over the past five expansions poorly written women have featured prominently in four of them.

This has been a problem since Legion. What’s Velen been doing? We have an entire zone with a giant Naaru looking thing sticking out of the ceiling. You’d think he’d be interested in it. You’d think Velen would be interested in what his former pupil was getting up to. He’s the resident expert on all things Light.

Or for that matter, what’s Muradin doing? The other two Bronzebeards are here. If we’re doing another Anduin plot, why not reintroduce the first person Arthas ‘killed’ with Frostmourne? Two of them could bond over shared trauma and in a kind of history-repeats-itself plot, Muradin could start training Anduin in how to be a proper warrior.

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As mentioned to the other “what he name” person, I don’t know any of the NPCs names

I do not care, I just call them what they are

Market guy, drill lady, paladin lady, etc

You can just google it if you think he doesn’t exist

Hi, I’ve been gaming since Sega Genesis, and yes, I’m a woman. We’ve always existed, gaming has never been a boy’s club.

I’ve also gotten intense hatred for being a “gamer girl” growing up, it’s gotten far far less nowadays, but in the late 90’s, early 2000s? The vitriol I got for daring to be a girl who gamed was awful and very very common.

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Welcome to every person who grew up playing DnD or video games in the 90s or before. The guys and girls were picked on for being nerdy.

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Yup, the arcades were full of nerds being picked on, and DnD wasn’t a bit of a sensation in the 80s.

Seems like a people skills issue.

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Have you ever heard of Satanic Panic? Or eveen remember the early depictions of male gamers in any media before the 90s it was always a sweaty neckbeard 300 lb guy with a pony tail.

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lol, that’s the biggest nerd mythology there is

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Nothing like a group of people crying about being marginalized actively marginalizing people

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This got a second part??? :face_with_raised_eyebrow:
Okay. :man_shrugging:

Oh, so that’s why they never made a ton of movies about people who were good at video games like the Wiz, the Last Starfighter. And the DnD scene at the beginning of ET was not the neckbeard stereotype. Hell, there was a whole saturday morning cartoon about it.

Yeah there is a satanic panic, because those people are still on about it (was funny in Gamergate when those schlubs welcomed Jack Thompson in, real gamer cred there guys) But it wasn’t taken seriously by most people. I mean, I never got any grief around 90 or so taking my 2nd edition sourcebooks to school to look through at like lunch.

How much soy do I need to consume a day to become awoken?

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I hate to have to tell you this but the satanic panic was not started by gamer girls or feminists for that matter.

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The what now. O.o

Oh when religious people thought DnD was way cooler than it really was and was teaching kids witchcraft. There was even a Tom Hanks movie about how dangerous DnD was. Well, made for TV movie called Mazes and Monsters.

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Assuming this is using the SAS survey, I wouldn’t take it seriously. Women are known to be more willing to take online surveys than men. Not sure how other demographic traits break down on this, but I also have a suspicion that retirees are more willing to take the time to fill out long-form surveys.

Huh… that’s uh… something

When I called people for surveys at my old job, it was mostly old men that took them.

That’s my personal experience anyway.

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