They even sacked the royal treasury after the fight lol
Because you killed a king, Genn was racist about it (to the Horde version, which it should’ve/could’ve been the Alliance version), and sacked the royal treasury
and also, apparently, killed a cat smh
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It was a choice of the writers.
They could’ve made the Alliance player do something brutal and ugly under the command of Genn and Shaw, something comparable at least in terms of “war crime” to Teldrassil.
Maybe you’re presented with two routes: either slaughter your way through civilians or fight through the army.
Yes, because there were even orders to focus on the army - which everyone but the Darkiron fulfilled - and have you noticed that everyone wants Jaina’s head, for Rastakhan, but Jaina, funnily enough, was not present in that fight?
And it would be not really better, i mean, why should it be better in the allianceversion if genn is…a … you know what i mean
I play a blood elf warlock because used to be an occultist + am assumed Arab or North African IRL so most racism I’ve dealt with is islamophobia because people can’t tell apart Brown Guys
high five fellow Occultist. I figured the name Baal was either because you are actually from Iraq or you are aware of occultism and islamic mysteries and we’ve talked about Zarathustra before.
It sounds strange.
The racist is on the side of the Alliance and the Aristocrat is on the side of the Horde. Will this definitely be considered a “local mercy”? It is more like “very violent locals” if contempt for the enemy and unnecessary brutality are seen as “nobleness” and “calmness”.
Was this not exactly what happened in the battle of Dazar’Alor?
Genn absolutely is a racist. he sought out others who hated undead too and operated a secret attack on the Forsaken in Stormheim. I just wish we could actually universally accept Genn as a racist instead he’s whitewashed by the Alliance narrative.
They could’ve had a narrative development where Talanji decides to reunify all the Troll tribes as a federation + include both the Tortollans and the Vulpera, invoking the history of 20th century Pan-African and Pan-Amerindigenous groups.
So the Zanchuli council could’ve been the Loa Priests and the Chieftains of each Tribe including Tortollans and Vulpera
But no.
Other way around.
Horde version (which is the “retelling”) has Genn being bloodthirsty
Alliance version (which is their playthrough) has Genn being merciful
It’s weird you use “Aristocrat” when I framed it as Genn being “good and noble”.
It would be clever.
The Alliance is forced to deal with internal discomfort and Genn’s aggression first-hand, Horde via Zandalari perspective thinks its fine because it’s a culture built on strength and severity.
No it’s a 20th century metaphor about strength through unity of diversity, as is the case when making alloys
I don’t get you, you want the alliance to be hardcore racist on the one hand, but on the other hand you deeply condemn the whole thing, so you want it in the game so you can morally condemn the alliance, for no other reason.
No matter what, you could then say “Well, the Alliance are racists, it’s their own fault”.
Only in the conservative view. There’s been debate in conservative circles about whether the term “melting pot” is supposed to be another form of absolving culture identity where the end result is white American or culture or white European culture. Conservatives just don’t ‘get it’
But the Liberal view is of a multicultural society where different cultures are distinct but multiculturalism is accepted as a universal cultural identity. A melting pot or different cultures all existing under a multicultural identity as similar to it’s definition “a place where different peoples, styles, theories, etc. are mixed together.”
The Horde, which is a composite of in-game races based upon IRL cultures that I belong to or am adjacent to or associated with, has been villain batted beyond redemption over ten years.
There is no walking it back, there is literally no progress from this narrative. The devs know this, and are likely going to just ignore the whole thing as they already have been doing. You know this. There is nothing in-game that can be done to “redeem” the Horde.
Our options, for the sake of narrative equity, are as follows:
Retcon the past X number of years out of existence, or at least retcon Teldrassil out of existence.
Allow the Alliance to be villain batted, to be framed as The Bad Guys, and it not be justified or watered down in the aftermath, and for the game to tell you that you are the bad guys in that moment.
I would prefer the first option, but I know it will never happen.
So why even tried to redeem? Its exist no Redemption for the crime of the horde, but the horde MUST still move on…even if its no redemption.
Even if they can´t get the Redemption they want…they have still to try it…to atone for their crimes. All other ways would be…bad at this point…bad and inconsequent.
Doesn’t “good and noble” imply aristocracy in some way? At least “noble”. Or I have a wrong understanding of “aristocracy”.
“Strength and harshness are great, but what demon do you encourage racism and excessive brutality? The Zandalari are racists, by killing them we make the world a better place.” In my opinion there will be such logic.
To now just inconsistently portray the alliance as ultra-racists (after all that has been abolished in over 15 years.)…is not a solution, it would just be a demand by a horde player base for redemption, redemption to be the only “bad” ones. They do not want to have to feel bad anymore, but to be able to say . “The alliance are racists, they deserve it”
… you know what i mean