New WCL Addon should be banned

WCL has released an addon that will allow you to see someone’s performance in a mouseover tooltip. You can tell at a glance how someone has performed in Heroic or Mythic raids. Nothing wrong with that, however…

They are charging money for premium features, which is against Blizzards TOS. The addon should be banned and Blizzard should take legal action against the site to protect their interests.

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There’s probably an email you can reach out to regarding that, or you might get a blue response in customer support that is a bit more knowledgable as to how to properly report such a thing.

That said, I wouldn’t have lofty expectations, there are addons that do make money from selling addon data. I suspect that this is a similar thing, selling a premium service for the website the addon pulls from.

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  1. Addons dont work that way. It would be VERY difficult to ban 1 specific addon without affecting others.

  2. This isnt the first time someone has done this and Blizz has done nothing. Providing it as part of a sub bundle is in a gray area

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Remember carbonite? Blizz sure as hell banned that addon quick smart because it was making the creators money.

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So, one example out of the numerous others they have done nothing about

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So what is the rational behind not allowing addon writers to collect money?

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I dont think Blizz has ever explicitly said. Its just in their ToS.

But I would guess they dont want players paying 3rd parties for an advantage that is not freely accessible to everyone

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They use the same loophole that Zygor uses. As long as the base addon is free and has some functionality, they can charge for “premium” functionality.

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That leveling addon does the same thing but they’re not selling you the addon, they’re selling you data. It’s always very easy to “borrow” this “premium” data since there’s nothing they can do with the in-game addon system to verify that you actually purchased it (or if there is someone can just edit the lua file that does that to break it and release a clean version of it for free).

If they’re actually using WCL instead of their own logs I just wanna know what the name of the addon is so I can use it. The one I know of got stopped from using WCL so it’s not very useful most of the time.

When in doubt, it sometimes helps to think of “World of Warcraft” as if it were a Disney theme park.

Because, legally, the two are actually quite similar.

So in that analogy: you are obviously allowed to buy a ticket and come into Disney, right? Go on the rides, have a good time, etc.

Are you allowed to come inside and set up a lemonade stand? Disney doesn’t have any IP properties around axolotls, and they’re quite the rage atm, would you be allowed to bring in some little axolotl stuffed animals and sell them?

See what I’m loosely going for here?

It’s Blizzard’s game. You can play their game. You can even tinker with things to “add on” to the experience. But you can’t PROFIT from their game in that sense.

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This is just another one of Blizzard’s rules that they have never enforced.

No it wouldn’t. You can simply ban one single addon from going in then say that anyone who uploads that addon or a variation of that addon to be used will banned from ever uploading anymore addons for use ever again. Blizz can contact Curse and the others who distribute addons. It is very odd how they have always had that rule that using an addon that you pay for is breaking the rules and yet never once have ever done anything about it.

They pick and chose which addons to ban or not ban. It has never been consistent.

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They can’t even reliably stop botting and now you expect them to scan everyone’s client for this one specific addon?

And they would probably end up breaking all of the other WCL addons in the process just to get this one.

Hint…you don’t get this one from curse. lol. I mean, that’s what the entire thread is about.

They can. The only way to have an effective bot is to have an active WoW sub. Bots = subs. You ban the bots you remove all those subs.

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At least historically, bots primarily used stolen/hacked accounts. So, even if what you said is true, Blizz isn’t generating new revenue by leaving them active.

That’s just a bad conspiracy theory.

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To be clear, you can make money off addons. You just can’t charge for them. Donations and revenue sharing from platforms like Curse are allowed.

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No. It’s a fact. You need to have a fully active sub in order to bot in WoW.

Yes and guess what those account have in place in order to bot? That’s right…an active sub. I never said anything about new revenue. I just said they lose revenue if they ban all the bots. It’s a pretty well known fact. You are silly for trying to deny it.

If they got rid of 100% of every single bot right now this very second… there goes all those subs. Each and every bot out there has an active sub on it.

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Ion and 90% of the developers probably creamed their sodas when they saw it and went to download it the second they heard of it.

I wouldn’t expect much here.

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Don’t use the add on, they can’t see your performance.