I kept noticing the UI while I was playing and couldn’t figure out why something seemed off. Oh they completely revamped the UI in Dragonflight. Cool. Can I at least undo the changes so I can have a funcional UI again? Nope. Stuck with the new one. Ok. Can I at least do anything to make it slightly better? You get an option in Edit Mode called “Classic” where it just moves the health bars in the right place. That’s nice. What about my action bars and the chat box? I have to drag those manually back into place. And dragging is a pain because you have to have 1 pixel accuracy or it looks off. I can’t put my action bars next to each other horizontally without turning off the bar art. Ok, sucks but I can manage. I also can’t resize the minimap or the menu buttons, they are hard coded to be tied to the UI scale. Ok, I’ll just change the UI scale and… It’s gone. All of your work moving everything into position is now ruined. Gotta revert back the UI scale and deal with having the Minimap too big and everything else too small. I can’t change the size of them independent of each other. Either I can’t read because the text is too small or if I make the text bigger the Minimap now takes up half of the screen. Who designed this? Helen Keller? The best part is that in the default UI setup, the Action Bar overlaps the Chat Box at any UI scale above 79%. Great job.
There is an addon called ClassicUI that will make your UI look as terrible as used to.
I really don’t want to have to mess with addons and all of the extra bugs and conflicts that they cause. No thanks. There should just be a simple option in the game. I shouldn’t have to download and install something from a 3rd party website just to make the game more playable.
And here manifests the OCD that cripples your ability to use the new UI.
Change or die, friend.
Is that supposed to be some kind of threat? And no, wanting the UI to not look like hot garbage is not OCD.
The old UI does not make the game “more playable.” It makes it look cosmetically the way you prefer. For the first time, the UI is actually pretty functional without addons. If you want it to look exactly like it used to–and I can’t stress enough that you should not want that–there is an addon to do it for you. Use it or don’t use it, it’s up to you.
You sound picky where you just don’t want a solution. The UI is actually rather nice. Easy to use. I enjoy it. Some people just cant be pleased.
I didn’t say it was. I said:
is OCD.
The new UI absolutely makes the game less playable. If I set the UI scale higher to where I can read the text instead of having to read 4pt fonts, it causes the minimap to take up half the screen, which then shrinks the size of my side Action Bars, making those 2 action bars harder to use because all of the buttons are now smaller. Likewise, if I keep the UI scale low, the buttons for talents and the character screen get so small that they are barely clickable. The default setup for the main Action Bar has it overlapping half of the text chat box, which again means I again have to either scale it down or start moving things around in Edit Mode. And in Edit Mode, important parts are not movable (Buff and debuff status, bags, menu buttons, XP bar). It is worse than the old UI which didn’t have all of these problems.
Isn’t this a matter of personal preference? Many people never needed a UI addon. They enjoyed what they had. It also wouldn’t have been difficult for blizzard to add a little toggle switch so that people could just use the old UI if they wanted to. But Blizzard doesn’t like to actually focus on user experience for they fear that most people would revert back to the old UI and that would make their bosses question how they are using their design resources.
idk which addon is responsible, but the vigor meter has recently stopped appearing in DF zones until i do a UI /reload
Pointing out bad design is not OCD. It is using my eyes in combination with common sense. I shouldn’t have to enter an Edit mode and try to eyeball lining all of the UI elements manually to fix something that wasn’t broken before the devs came and changed it for the sake of change. There are only 2 ways to drag and drop in Edit Mode: Snap and No Snap. If you do not use Snap (which doesn’t work), you have to drag it 1 pixel at a time, and even when you do, the outlines of the boxes don’t actually match up, so even if you line it up perfectly, it is one pixel off. That is bad design. Every time I try to use Edit Mode I just give up 10 minutes in because every time I move something it breaks 2 other things.
I know ICE Hud recently changed it, so the Vigor UI no longer was at the top of the screen but now under your character like the personal resource meter was. Your able to move it back to the top by disabling that feature or if you want can move it around the screen to fit your preference it allows you to change the position with coordinates.
The new UI had me looking for raid frame addons for the first time ever. I haven’t found one that I like - I just want the old raid frames back. I miss the functionality of the old raid frames. I always had 2 rows of 4 vertical groups using raid frames, and that option is gone. It either invades the middle of my screen (1 row of 8 groups) or overlaps my chat window and character pane (hroizontal groups). I can’t even customize which direction the raid frames grow and the horizontal groups grow both up and down when I join a world boss group. I know I can have a blob of all raid frames and re-size that blob into a square or recangle, but that’s unacceptable because it doesn’t divide the raid frames into groups. There are some things that I don’t mind about the new UI, but in some areas the devs actively made things worse.
It would be one thing if all they did was add more options and make things more customizable. That’s not what they did though, at least with the raid frames. I’ve also had to use console commands to get other functionality back (like restoring the old minimap filters) and re-size the minimap closer to what it was before.
I’m a fan of Grid2 for raid frames. It’s just superior in every conceivable way to the stock raid frames. It’s infinitely customizable, but does take some effort to set up just the way you want though.
Looking at the top left of your screen to see things like your target’s health and debuffs is just plain bad. It’s not personal preference–you literally can’t look at it at the same time you’re looking at where you’re standing. It’s objectively worse for playing the game.
That said, if you want to have your UI be bad, that’s fine, but the game shouldn’t be catering to that nonsense.
The new UI is better than the old, but the WoW UI can be customized a billion different ways. You can make it look literally any way you want it to look. But just how I was always required to use addons to make my UI look the way I want, so too must you.
But having a better default UI should help raise the floor of the low end of the player base just by allowing them to access information in a more reasonable way.
So I guess most games that have ever been made just have bad UI according to you. Overwatch? CS:GO? Diablo? Bad UI! Scrap it! Put everything in the middle of the screen so I can’t actually see in front of me.
You’re a few months late on this one, friendo.
Yeah, imagine being able to see that you’re standing in fire before you die to it. CRAZY RIGHT??!?!!!?!?!?
Yeah imagine if you could actually see the fire that you are standing in. That would be crazy.