New Token system to allow the Exchange of MoP Challenge Mode Class sets across alts & new mains

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I’ve created a pretty straightforward Token system that would allow players who earned Challenge Mode sets in MoP to have them on other characters at the cost of temporarily revoking it from the character(s) who currently have it.

(Eg. If you currently had [Challenge Conqueror: Gold] on 3 characters, then those 3 will receive a Token each in their mail upon this change).

Since the [Challenge Conqueror: Gold] achievement is already “account-wide”, but with a vendor restriction per-character, bypassing that entirely by just adding all 11 Challenge Mode Class sets to your appearance/sets window (for each class appropriately). You still wouldn’t be able to actually use any of them though unless your character is in possession of the token (much like how you can have the appearance of Engineer Goggles, but if you don’t actually have the profession skill, you can’t mog into it).

Why this change?

It’s been a zugging decade since MoP Challenge modes, and there’s a pretty high chance that many players who got CM Gold back in MoP aren’t even playing those toons as their mains anymore. Anecdotally, my entire friend group that I did the challenge modes with, for example.

Be it, undesired class changes, boredom, or changing tastes/preferences etc, the reality is that this game is so account-wide in so many aspects, but strangely restrictive in others, and if I can ride the CM Silver Phoenix mounts on any character, why not let me at least switch privilege rights? I’ve only got 2 CM sets myself, but both my Monk and Shaman haven’t seen any active play since Legion. I’d happily revoke their access to the CM sets if it meant giving it to this Warrior, or my Paladin or Priest.

Players who got CM 11/11, or already have it on their preferred characters wouldn’t be affected by this at all- you would just get the Tokens upon login and simply need to drop it off in Void Storage. All this really does is let you use what you earned on what you’re playing pretty much. Mailing to alts is on a 120 day cooldown so that this isn’t something you just change on a whim every other day (kind of like how Item Restoration is on a 7-day lock also).

Blizzard are realizing that when we can access the stuff we worked for one the characters we currently play, everyone wins. I think this rationale was why achievements & mounts became account-bound in the first place, why the Balance of Power Artifact weapon appearances are now going to be account-wide so long as you did it once, and why they switched from class sets to weapons for WoD’s CM. At the end of the day, if you put in the time, you should be able to reap the rewards- and in a game like this where class changing is pretty common to do expansion-by-expansion, I think the original CM set limitations are a relic of a bygone era for WoW.

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This would be amazing.

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Right? Though who knows how often Blizz sees the General Discussion forum ideas and actually takes them on board lmao. One could dream :smiling_face_with_tear:

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This would be nice. I never even took my Druid challenge mode armor out of the box, it’s still sitting in the box in my bank.

(Thing’s ugly as hell.)

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Yes, this should be done

I wish I was wearing it to make a joke here

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I’d love this. I did Druid, Shaman and Priest. I just didn’t have groups to do all classes.

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It’s what they did with the weapons so you didn’t have to do multiple classes or level/gear a warrior. :woman_shrugging:

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I would love something like this. I played monk for my guild at the time but my main is always pally at heart. Every day i kick myself for not doing it twice. Always wished they made it account wide. This woukd work too.

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Hard pass. This awards you with an item set for a class you never earned it on.
It also doesn’t fit into Blizzard’s design philosophy for unobtainable item sets. There’s a reason CM and Elite mogs are specific to class.

Might aswell just add the sets back. Atleast that way you have to earn them rather than being rewarded for doing nothing.

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I think you’re forgetting the 3.5 year period where any Elite PvP sets earned could (and still can) be worn by characters that simply share the armour proficiency and little else. Shucks, I’ve literally got the Elite SL S1 Plate sets mogged to my DK and Paladin right now, and I’m terrible at both! And considering how long this was allowed, it was clearly a conscious choice by Blizzard- one that spanned almost 4 years. Expansion by expansion, we’re seeing constant changes and updates (totally in line with what I’m proposing) that reinforce my point that it’s less about the character accomplishment and more about the player accomplishment.

I think you may be a bit hyper-fixated on the class-set aspect of all of this. In the case of your opinion on Blizzard’s philosophy? Challenge Mode and Elite PvP achievements, titles, and mounts are all account-wide, not exclusive to the class that earned them. Elite PvP sets and CM sets are class-bound because what else would they do? They designed those sets as a wearable reward that matches the aesthetic of the class wearing it, of course they’re not going to let other classes wear them.

Like mentioned before, when BFA and Shadowlands had sets that were not aesthetically tied to a single class, your point would have far more ground to stand on if they still maintained the class-locking of those sets, regardless of the generic appearances. But that wasn’t what happened. The class restrictions for transmogging those sets was removed. That single choice tells you exactly where their real design rationale is at- they recognize that it was the player first and foremost that got those rewards (also you can transmog the challenge mode sets and elite PvP sets onto characters of the same class that never earned it).

Those sets are an in-game means to publicly recognize a player’s skill in that area of gameplay. The sets themselves are not not meant to say: “wow, that guy’s a really good [class]!”, they’re meant to say: "wow, that [class] is a really good player!".

I’ve made my point already, but just to drive it home; If the former were true like you’re suggesting, Pandaren Phoenix Mounts, Gladiator Mounts, the Undaunted Title, and the PvP-titles would be restricted to the character that earned them. But they’re not. In fact, Gladiator mounts are the highest symbol of PvP status, and not too long ago they recently became account-wide too.

And based off of the replies so far, my solution seems fair to those who originally earned them, completely in-line with Blizzard’s design philosophies, reasonable in preserving scarcity, and clearly a very common pain point for other CM Gold havers.

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These were never meant to be class specific sets, which is what your OP is referring to.