There is bug reports in the forums about this, but FYI if you put on a piece of new Tier it will bug the old stuff. As an example I had 4 pieces of odd and added 1 piece of new (did not remove any old tier, just added one of the new) and it stopped proc’ing the 2-piece bonus at all. For me this means I’m going to wait until I have no kidding 4 pieces of new tier to replace the old tier…unless they hotfix or something.
yeah we know, check with the mage discord. blizz won’t fix it, most of us will have 4pc soonish like next week maybe
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It’s not technically a bug according to Blizz and they are refusing to treat it as such. They’re calling the season 4 sets “new” and coded them as separate from the old sets they mimic so they can’t be mixed and matched. Basically their way of forcing everyone to regrind tier pieces again coz they have to keep us busy and chained to the hamster wheel for several more months with this “new” content, lol.
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I get that part, what’s bugged is if you add a single piece of new tier while not breaking old tier (so 4 old, 1 new), it bugs the old set so you don’t get the bonuses. Some report the 4-piece bonus not working, others the 2-piece (which was in my case).
Oh that’s weird. Probably a coding error somewhere. That’s what happens when they reuse old assets, lol.
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I thought they had fixed it, so I ran a mythic today and it bugged out again.
Some people mentioned you can unequip and equip piece to undo it, and that seemed to work, but once it bugged in a dungeon run you can’t swap gear, so I ended up sucking for most of it.
It was probably some blanket if switch saying if there’s 1 piece of the new tier the old tier won’t trigger at all.
Just add it to the list of reasons why using an internet poll with virtually zero controls or statistical validity to decide on the S4 set bonuses was a dumb idea I hope they never repeat.
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I have a four set from last season and two peices for this season, same set bonus.
I understand they dont want to give the four set bonus with old and new teir, but it would be cool if the 2pc stacked
Ive got two pieces of teir and teo hero track prices for the other two slots but its less dps (when simmed) than using the older 4pc.
It feels bad having two pieces of teir and two higher ilvl pieces just sitting in my bag. 504 ilvl with below 1m health, could be 509 and well above 1m health.
I was just enraged to see that the appearance chosen was the ACTIVE season. Like WTF folks? You’re literally picking the appearance YOU CAN EARN RIGHT NOW?! But yeah I’d like more validity, maybe some threshold of played time so people didn’t troll vote for alts.
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Oh it was a complete fiasco, as is this entire “season.” Ever since they decided to pull the plug on the rest of DF and cut it short after Amirdrassil they’ve gone out of their way to try and salvage the messy fallout by adding all of these ill considered things. Another fated season, the set poll, Plunderfail, and now this Pandaland time traveling extravaganza.
I suppose it’s all fine and good that they’re trying to make up for it but this half baked nonsense that’s clearly aimed more at pulling the wool over people’s eyes rather than genuinely trying to make amends doesn’t sit well with me.
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Is this true? I thought Amirdrassil was always supposed to be the end.
WoW’s reality has always been that the current expansion runs out of juice before the next one is ready. At this point it’s just expected and I’m not sure it’s something that can ever be fixed. It is what it is and I can at least give a modicum of credit that they are trying to give us SOMETHING to do while we wait.
The set poll was just dumb. I think they should have just made all options available and let us choose in game which set bonus we wanted, and give us a way to unlock all the appearances. Even if the choice was locked in after we picked one, that would have been preferable to what they did.
As far as the rest of it, a lot of people seemed to like Plunderstorm, or at least did it due to FOMO. It wasn’t my cup of tea and I never set foot in it, but that’s okay. I don’t have to like everything. I saw it something I could safely ignore, and I did.
Pandaria Rewind or whatever it’s called feels like they’re testing a new implementation of Chromie Time. I actually don’t mind that so much since they can toss in some special rewards along the way. A new approach to leveling alts with some incentives for doing so isn’t a terrible idea.
Fated raids? Indifferent. Again it’s better than nothing I suppose.
Eh. As usual you perceive more sinister intent than I do. I don’t think they’re trying to fool people so much as they’re just throwing spaghetti against the wall to see what sticks during content droughts. The problem with that approach is that not everything is going to land well, obviously.
A lot of former Blizzard employees have said so, especially those that were part of the latest round of layoffs. Btw, apparently talking about this subject is a taboo even though it’s in no way against the forum rules but the last time I mentioned layoffs at Blizzard my post and the entire thread was completely deleted without any warning or the usual notifications. Make of that what you will.
Everything has to be taken with a grain of salt when it comes to ongoing development because it’s hard to say why and when plans change but it certainly seems to bear out when you consider that there were 4 Incarnates and we only dealt with 3 (one of which randomly decided to join us over the course of two in game cut scenes). Iridikron and Xal’atath’s plot line was introduced half way through the expansion and would have had plenty of time to be explored and developed further but was seemingly abandoned and will only now be mentioned for the first time during a brief questline coming next week (which would have fit perfectly as an opener to a real season 4).
I think that in DF they set out to break the cycle of only 3 raids per expansion and bring back the good old days of 4 raids but obviously in didn’t work out. I would actually go further and say that I think they took what would have been the real fourth season of DF and stretched it out into its own expansion with TWW, hence the whole announcing of the next 3 expansions ahead of schedule.
Again, it’s hard to say what was decided when and why but the evidence is there.
Haha. Well I don’t see it that way, obviously. For one, there is nothing sinister about it. It’s just that they’re throwing all of this stuff out there and trying to pass it off as new content when it very obviously isn’t. It’s not sinister, it’s disingenuous. And like I said, I appreciate that they’re trying to do something rather than just leave a year long gap of nothing but I just don’t like the way they approach it. Which is why I usually just play other games during those times. I also don’t cancel my subscription even when I am not actively playing so when they introduce all of this FOMO stuff with the clear intention of keeping subscriptions going it obviously doesn’t land well with me because I am not the target audience, lol.
P.S. I also never set foot in Plunderstorm and like you say that’s fine, not everything is meant for everyone. My biggest gripes with it were that (1) it was billed as a retail WoW patch when it really wasn’t and, (2) it didn’t feel like WoW at all; it felt like a completely different game that just happened to use WoW assets.
I agree that it all needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Maybe the original plan was for us to deal with Iridikron this expansion; there’s no way to know for sure. He was never a factor in the DF storyline. Remove him from the DF narrative and it changes nothing.
The Incarnates were never really that well developed as characters. They were there just to give us someone to beat up. Again, I can respect the idea of not having every expansion’s big bad be a Thanos level villain seeking to end existence, but a little more depth to the characters would have been nice. In order to motivate us to kill Rasz and Fyrakk they just made them over the top annoying bullies rather than villains with some actual gravitas. Which is a shame, because the premise that the Aspects maybe weren’t always so virtuous was fertile story ground that was left largely untilled.
That’s probably overstating. If DF was in fact abbreviated it’s more likely that what would have been DF season 4 is now just TWW season 1.
Just want to add, I can also confirm that if you wear 4 pieces of the new set and one piece of the old, nothing works. I have to unequip ALL 5 PIECES and then equip JUST the 4 new pieces to get it to work again. Adding the 5th (old) piece back seems to break it immediately.
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Yeah I am also in the same boat now, it’s ridiculous. We’re basically locked out of using tier set pieces until we get all 4 which translates to either not having a tier set bonus or running around with much less HP than everyone else and getting one shot by the completely unbalanced outgoing damage in both M+ and the Awakened raids.
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That is the boat I’m in right now.
I havent been on the lucky side of drops in raid or dungeons of any kind last week or so far this week. I’m already showing to be over 100-200k hps lower than most people, and that gap keeps getting bigger!!!
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The Fire bonuses seem to be fine, I currently have 3 old and 2 new equipped. I haven’t done the actual math but I can confirm that on the dummies PF is at least visually applying Charring Embers (S4 2-pc) and Pyro crits are at least visually giving me Searing Rage (S3 2-pc).
Is this maybe just a Frost/Arcane bug? Or is it only happening in instanced content and is fine on the dummies?
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It was happening to me in Valdrakken on the dummies for sure
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