New Tanks: A Modest Suggestion

You can tank an instance blind.

That’s allowed.

You can show up with your insta-queue, keyboard turn back and forth a few times, and say, “Where do I go?”

That’s allowed.

You can also do something else:

  • You can run dungeons for a while as dps or heals, and learn from the tanks in those groups, before you lead a group yourself.
  • You can tank follower dungeons, and choose the option to have one of the AI lead, so that you get a sense of the paths, the flow, and the mechanics.
  • You can watch videos of dungeons online.

All of those things are allowed.

Tanks have an out-sized influence in dungeons, and they get faster queues. Just consider the possibility that in return for those benefits, you can provide knowledgeable leadership to your group. You’ll have faster, smoother runs, and you’ll have group mates who appreciate you.

Or don’t change anything – it’s your subscription!

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I main tank, so this doesn’t really apply to me, but I will say… I will NEVER watch a freaking youtube video to learn a dungeon.

This is a game, not a job.
I will learn by playing.

If you don’t like it, you can requeue for your 45 min wait.

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Nah, I think tanks are allowed to blind que

DPS and healers do it, why do tanks have to do even more work than everyone else?

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I tank and I know things. I do what I want.

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Imagine thinking tanks should be thankful for instaqueue, when they deal with nonstop idiots blaming them and getting the least amount of credit.

People love to bite the hand that feeds, lol.

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I am liking the love towards tanks.

Lately it’s kinda felt bad after both survivability nerf and damage nerf (increase in our kit is way less than the external damage contribution we could pull off).

DPS: A Modest Suggestion

You can dps an instance blind.

That’s allowed.

You can show up with your 20 minute queue, keyboard turn back and forth a few times, and say, “I don’t have interrupt on my bars?” or “What’s cc mean?”

That’s allowed.

You can also do something else:

You can follow the tank in dungeons and learn from the tanks on how to interrupt and cc and not stand in swirls and fire.

You can dps follower dungeons, and choose the option to have one of the AI lead, so that you can practice and see how mechanics should be done and how much easier it is if you contribute to interrupts.

You can watch videos of dungeons online.

All of those things are allowed.

DPS also have a big influence in dungeons with both great damage, avoiding preventable damage, and the ability to help control trash. Just consider the possibility that in return for tanks and healers willing to take on sometimes harder roles, you can provide knowledgeable contributions to your group instead of acting like you’re out questing solo and don’t know boss mechanics and wipe the group by insta-dying. You’ll have faster, smoother runs, and you’ll have group mates who appreciate you.

Or don’t change anything – it’s your subscription!

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The group is just gonna do whatever they want anyway.

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I just ask something for the DPS:

USE YOUR FREAKING INTERRUPT AND CC.

You’ll do more damage if you’re not dead, i promise you that.

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What prompted this post? I need the gory details.

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I never understood why tanks had to be the defacto group leader. Anyone that knows a dungeon or raid can be the knowledgeable leadership. But I don’t do group content anymore so I have no real skin in the game.

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The desire to troll everyone with a bait and run

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Damn. I’m here for the vent threads though. The ones that read like a soap opera. :popcorn:

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as a main tank it literally doesnt matter what i do…if i go fast people complain, if i go slow people race ahead and pull…if i try to ask them not to i get vote kicked…group content is bad for tanks…the insta que is because there are 100 groups waiting for a tank because all the tanks dont actually wanna que. theres no reason to know the fights or know the routes someone will almost ALWAYS run ahead…theyve made every class capable of living through a pretty crazy amount of damage so nobody is fearful of anything anymore…there are no planned pulls outside of m+ so unless you have a dedicated group of people you usually play with tanking is basically just a miserable experience. dps players dont care about anything other than life bars going down. there really isnt anyway to change that…the game should literally force everyone to tank a few times in order to get a quest done or something. maybe then people would understand what its like. as for now…if youre gonna tank just find people to play with regularly otherwise the game is just gonna suck for you after a short amount of time…

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I agree with this

Yeeep

Dungeon goes bad? Tanks fault
Dungeon goes good? “Good work healer”

Tanks can have fast ques as a lil treat for dealing with more Bologna than everyone else, cuz if it wasn’t the hardest role surely more people would gladly swap over for fast ques yea?

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Honestly no idea. Back in vanilla I used to lead dungeons and UBRS raids all the time as a hunter. Somewhere along the line I guess people decided tanks had to be the party leader for some reason.

I am new to tanking. I have a 525 prot pally and a blood dk waiting in the wings. Your suggestion about doing folloer dungeons is on point. When I have those dungeons running smoothly as a tank I’ll try some normal dungeons. I have left of trying a tank because I didn’t want to blow it for a group. Your suggestions are sound.

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Its the start of an expansion, god forbid someone doesn’t know their way around a map. How about you stop being so anti social in an mmo.

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The expansion has been out for less than a month.
No tank is blowing anything for anyone.