ROGUE
Subtlety
Developers’ notes: This week’s changes related to Subtlety’s most iconic ability, Shadow Dance, are intended to help address concerns about cooldown cadence. But we recognize these are minor changes that do not solve all problems; many more changes will be coming in future patches. We have been and will continue to evaluate feedback, and we plan on revising Subtlety’s approachability updates to address community concerns and to work towards better achieving stated goals for the Subtlety spec as well as those for combat approachability in general.
Deepening Shadows has been redesigned – Shadow Dance duration is increased by 100% of your Haste.
Shadow Dance cooldown reduced to 30 seconds (was 45 seconds).
Shadow Dance duration increased to 8 seconds (was 6 seconds).
Improved Shadow Dance has been removed.
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actually solid changes at first glance, tc cooking
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So if you go out of your way to get the 30% soft cap for haste, is that just an additional 2.4 seconds going from 8 to 10.4 seconds? Is that how the math works here?
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Suddenly im fine with Sub having haste be a stat value 
. Pop lust and get a free 2.4s per Dance? Deal
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Yeah been on the fence, but now it might be worth the stat. So the stat priority sounds like it might also change since they are forcing haste so heavily now with that change too. Remains to be seen ofc
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More W’s for Rogues in midnight.
I really like the Deepening shadows changes. Further they should rework secret technique to have no cooldown and only castable ONCE during shadow dance.
This should also be added to secret technique current design: “50% of all shadow damage you do while in shadow dance is stored, Secret technique expends this damage when used”
Haste elongates this window, the current capstone(?) talents sync perfectly. Obviously black powder damage may need to contribute less than 50% if it’s too overpowered.
This would award high skill play while also ensuring noobs use it in a proper window.
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Quite literally just have this as a talent replace Goremaws if they refuse to fix that button.
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Baseline they should just remove ST cooldown and only make it usable once during each shadow dance cast.
This is is a weird obsession you’ve posted quite a lot
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I like the idea, maybe it could be like void torrent and it’s new thing. Shadow technique is the follow up for shadow dance. Maybe not though. Just a thought.