New PvP class tuning incoming

[Kthis-shandris]

Class Tuning Incoming – June 6

As we continue to monitor class performance in instanced group content as well as PvP, we regularly adjust classes that are over- or under-performing. Based on recent data, observations, and feedback from players, we intend to make the following adjustments during scheduled weekly maintenance (on June 6 in this region). Classes Death Knight Blood All damage abilities increased by 8%. Druid Feral Developers’ notes: The following set bonus changes will increase the average number of st…

[Vanazar-windseeker]

Hunter

• Marksmanship
• Developers’ notes: Marksmanship Hunters have been underperforming in different forms of PvP content.
  • Aimed Shot damage increased by 25% in PvP combat (was 15%).
  • Rapid Fire damage increased by 25% in PvP combat (was 15%).
  • Arcane Shot damage increased by 25% in PvP combat (was 16%).

Absolutely and totally clueless. Prepare yourself for 6+ hunters every BG.

[Kthis-shandris]

Completely. They weren’t even underpowered.

Boomies getting a reduction to astral power generation, but getting a buff to their non-dots.

[Kleeara-stormrage]

I am very surprised to see MM buffed.
I already have hunter evoker and destro for my three toons. Time to make my hunter some spark gear I guess

[Totemgottem-malganis]

@Vanazar-windseeker

Prepare yourself for 6+ hunters every BG.

Last season of SL, 15-20 in epic BGs wasn’t that uncommon.

[Kitanana-sargeras (Kitanana)]

@Kaivax

Beast Mastery

• All damage dealt by you and your pet’s abilities increased by 5%.

@Kaivax

• Discipline
• Developers’ notes: Discipline has been more reliant on shields this season than we’d like. We’re increasing Atonement healing while bringing down the power of shields, with the goal of the preferred playstyle being an offensive one. We’re also targeting the mana reduction from Inner Light, as Discipline has been more mana efficient than we’d like.
• Power Word: Shield now absorbs 15% less damage in PvP combat.
• Inner Light now reduces the mana cost of the affected spells by 10% (was 15%).
• Atonement healing is now 50% more effective in PvP combat (was 40%).

@Kaivax

• Demonology
• Developers’ notes: Demonology’s healing reduction effect from their Felguard was one of the best healing reductions in the game, which didn’t feel appropriate given the class identity, how easy it is to apply, and how it can be applied to multiple targets at a time. Along with Affliction, we’re also increasing the damage of Shadow Bolt in PvP, as the reward for casting it is low.
• Legion Strike reduces healing taken by 20% in PvP (was 25%).
• Shadow Bolt damage increased by 30% in PvP combat.

@Kaivax

• Mistweaver
• Developers’ notes: Mistweavers have been overperforming compared to other healers, especially due to their mana efficiency.
• Soulfang Infusion now regenerates 75% less Mana in PvP combat (was 50%).
• Zen Spheres now cost 0.5% base Mana.
• Enveloping Mist now heals for 5% more in PvP combat (was 20%).
• Mistweaver Monks now regenerate 15% less Mana in PvP combat (was 10%).
• Windwalker
• Developers’ notes: Whirling Dragon Punch has felt underwhelming and we’d like it to feel impactful to use without being a major portion of a Windwalker’s damage profile.
• Whirling Dragon Punch damage increased by 80% in PvP combat.

@Kaivax

• Balance
• Developers’ notes: Balance Druids have been overperforming due to their ability to generate so much Astral Power and deal high damage by applying dots and casting Starfall repeatedly. We’d like to reduce the effectiveness of that playstyle since it’s difficult for opponents to stop. Goldrinn’s Fang also became much more effective in Embers of Neltharion, and includes some randomness and ability to score kills unexpectedly. Finally, Owlkin Adept has been a locked-in talent for a while now and has been propping up their control a bit more than we’re comfortable with.
• Moonfire and Sunfire generate 4 Astral Power when cast in PvP combat (was 6).
• Stellar Innervation increases Astral Power generation of Moonfire and Sunfire by 50% in PvP combat (was 100%).
• Star Burst grants 8 Astral Power (was 15).
• Owlkin Adept reduces the cast time of Cyclone and Entanglng Roots by 20% (was 30%).
• Goldrinn’s Fang damage is reduced by 50% in PvP combat.
• Wrath and Starfire deal 60% increased damage in PvP combat (was 50%).

these r interesting

[Vanazar-windseeker]

I’m just talking about ten man maps.

[Worldpvp-garrosh]

@Vanazar-windseeker

Hunter

• Marksmanship
• Developers’ notes: Marksmanship Hunters have been underperforming in different forms of PvP content.
  • Aimed Shot damage increased by 25% in PvP combat (was 15%).
  • Rapid Fire damage increased by 25% in PvP combat (was 15%).
  • Arcane Shot damage increased by 25% in PvP combat (was 16%).

Absolutely and totally clueless.

No, this is needed. MM is weak.

@Vanazar-windseeker

Prepare yourself for 6+ hunters every BG.

LOL…they don’t balance classes around random battlegrounds.

Besides, there’s always been a lot of hunters in battlegrounds.

[Omenix-laughing-skull]

No, this is needed. MM is weak.

I love playing my MM, but I don’t necessarily think damage was the issue. They need more survivability imo. But that would require actual effort on the dev team’s part, so they’re just pushing out numbers. Such a lazy approach.

[Kthis-shandris]

@Omenix-laughing-skull

They need more survivability imo

This is the real issue with MM. Idk why Blizz thought, “Hunters keep dying? Let’s increase their damage from 70k dps to 75k dps. Maybe that’ll help?”

[Yagarr-moon-guard (Yagarr)]

I understand MM isn’t showing up in Arena, but the damage profile has got to be reworked to be less oppressive to cloth and people w/o LOS cover.

Most BG objectives cannot be accomplished while pillaring (unlike Arena). You can’t cap a flag or SSM cart and pillar.

MM damage needs to be shifted into their bleeds/magic damage like Serpent Sting. This will help them in Arena. It’ll help them with Plate.

It won’t give them constant 40+ yard “sustained damage” that feels like other specs’ burst. (Especially if you have light armor.)

[Worldpvp-garrosh]

Armor type hasn’t mattered in a very long time.

[Yagarr-moon-guard (Yagarr)]

Eh Aimed Shot/Rapid Fire still stunted into plate. Rips cloth/leather apart.

[Worldpvp-garrosh]

My friend, no. This isn’t Classic.

[Kitanana-sargeras (Kitanana)]

@Worldpvp-garrosh

Armor type hasn’t mattered in a very long time.

i wish this was true and they opened up tmogs for that it doesnt matter imo

[Alaydrica-windseeker]

Instead they balance classes around an inherently broken game mode that needs a stacking healing debuff to ensure matches actually end. Makes sense. The last thing MM needed was more damage. It needs competitive defensives to every other meta arena spec, if they actually wanna balance around arena. Instead they removed two defensive pvp talents in 10.1. Survival of the fittest is an absolutely terrible defensive regardless which trait enhancement you take, because the cooldown for either variant is double that of every other similar defensive on every other class. Turtle has a similar cooldown to paladin bubble yet you can still die through it, and it can’t be used while stunned. Meanwhile dispersion on shadow priest is half the cooldown, can be used while CC’d, and provides healing for the duration. So yes, the devs are clueless.

[Bepples-barthilas]

It makes a big difference, actually. This may not be classic but the interaction between physical damage and armour never changed.

[Eleplatell-uther]

@Vanazar-windseeker

Absolutely and totally clueless.

LOL

well I only use mine as a “kill switch” when my non-meta toons have issues.

But it’s nice to know my ONE shot hunter will now be a 3/4 shot hunter =P

[Worldpvp-garrosh]

@Bepples-barthilas

It makes a big difference, actually.

[Vanazar-windseeker]

@Bepples-barthilas

It makes a big difference, actually.

There is a difference, but the difference is not enough to prevent plate from getting killed in three GCDs by a hunter popping off on them in a random BG.

As far as hunter needing more damage… L. O. L.

Hunter’s problems in arena won’t be solved by having more damage and it will make hunters even a bigger joke in random BGs.

WOW Dragonflight PvP | MM Hunter Does Not Need More Damage

800K health warlock go splat.
(friend on hunter, not me)