Has no one noticed this yet or why are you silent? I spend almost all my time in WoW in PvP and now the tank shamans are broken. He can solo tank and kill groups of players. Because the new aura only helped his broken spec. No class can kill him 1 on 1 now.
Tank specs should lose the ability to instantly heal themselves through Riptide or something similar. Also, the tank spec should not have such a high damage in PvP due to the huge amount of Defense rating. This is stupid in PvP.
Also, the healer druid is too strong in PvP now. He is like his cringe version of TBC in which he just runs around and uses lifeblooms to stay 100% at all times.
Giving instant healing spells to casters is the biggest mistake with the conditions of this PvP aura. You can’t counter it, because you can’t kick the cast.
Also usual enha with duals or 2h weaps needs insta heal weave from 5 maelstorm stacks
At least the owls take damage and I reflect their starfire very often, then they kill themselves.
They are still strong and their weakening should be targeted, not general like aura.
My main char paladin - I think he is still tier A, but shamans are now tier S++ against all melee and tier S+ against everyone else. We played in a party today with my mage friend and could not kill the shaman together (my char is bis with MoM and i twist)
Hunters have become a brainless class, like they once did with rogues. Previously, you had to press at least some buttons except Kill shot (just like backstab now). Hunters do not even need to keep distance to deal damage and use their crowd control abilities (the main idea of ​​the class is killed).
i should add that even at 3rd place in the rankings all 4 classes are op compared to everyone else.
tank shaman weakness is to everything it cant block and ranged damage. they have pitiful range (10 yards on lb/cl/lvb and 20 yard range on all their shocks other than earth shock which is melee only range) with way of earth rune on which is what they are using if they are a tank shaman.
honestly even with the weakness they are a hard out for alot of people.
i wouldnt call them s+ tier against ranged though. more of an a+.
if i duel range class like hunter on shaman i usually using block and tank rune, cos its eat too much dmg and gives excellent survivability and the ability to close in to deal damage, BUT im just enha
tank ele using tank gear and his spd grabs from usual fire shock(and its aoe). Tank ele using 100% increaced crit dmg from spells(in talents) + shoulder chant and ofc runes with fireshock boost. that means u just die when u tries to do any dmg to him.
If he using thorn build with 4 pieces and 2 enha for +100% lighting shield dmg u just dies from ur 10 hits on pala with 8k hp.
With new pvp aura fights have become longer, thats nice (in general for pvp) , but Shamanistic rage is 1m cd still, that means - The longer you fight against the shaman, the more you lose to him in resources.
A competent shaman will be able to defeat both boomie and other casters, he has the tools, he needs to survive for 2 minutes or more, which is not so difficult with the new aura.
I think they are better in group pvp than in duel.
In duel you can set up runes differently, change talents and equipment.
In world pvp you use an average middle build of talents, runes and items. Shaman has AoE damage and survivability. I think this is the most important thing in mass battles.
In order not to be unfounded, I will attach a clip below. I speak another language, but there is a translation. The point is that together with the mage, we barely kill a PvE shaman (not ready for PvP). I hit him in the back all the time and every time I do a seal twist with the best gear in the game. He just doesn’t feel it lol. The mage also attacks him.
Uh? Do you even know what makes tank shamans strong? the ability to “BLOCK MELEE” damage. They have no mitigation against casters and a good caster SP, Mage and most definitely Boomkins shouldn’t have an issue. Tank Shamans shine because bgs are usually melee heavy.
Also you mention riptide but w/o purification deep in resto it heals for NOTHING an auto attack will negate the heal.
what does block have to do with it when the SPD shaman gets from fire shock and defense rating?
You don’t need to block to get this bonus.
The entire Pve gear gives a lot of stamina, which is improved by the Path of the Earth rune, you can make a million hp and eat any dmg. The same rune gives a 10% reduction in incoming damage, which is summed up with the aura and shamanistic rage.
When you don’t take a lot of damage, the value of your heal grows exponentially.
You should learn before you argue.
ALSO u CAN BLOCK RANGEEE hunter shots uh? UH? i bet u didnt know that lol
I didn’t say that hunters are casters, although they can be classified as such because their traps are magic. I just said that you were wrong when you tried to seem smart, but only showed your incompetence in this matter.
As for the second message - next time you don’t have to come up with excuses if you have nothing to answer. You can just leave and not embarrass yourself
Once again, you tried to be smart and got s lapped, and now you’re crying in this thread and flooding
I love catching upstarts like you in such failures, the heat from their burning bAcKs warms me at night (thousands of kilometers away)
I understand you are a shaman, but try to understand simple words, I did not call hunters casters, but if necessary, I can justify that they can be considered as such. Just let me know. Thinking and argumentation are my strong point, which cannot be said about you
Also, bro, ur main char have less kills then my horde alt, and u arguing about pvp, go clear some raid and dont cry in pvp topics anymore pls
It’s a shame you have nothing to say about the facts of the dispute, baby. That’s the beauty of facts - if u are wrong - you can’t argue with them.
Yes, I found your main character. I think you need to understand who’s in front of you: another PvE worm or a real PvPer. I think people like you shouldn’t be allowed to participate in PvP discussions, kek.
Thanks for destroying yourself once again in front of everyone.
Why did you bring up these character names? If you add them all up, you won’t get even half of my main character lol. You can look at all the characters starts on Holysaxy… There will be about 60k kills (+i dont playing bgs for sure, so its wpvp) You’re arguing with the wrong guy, lil boi. You’d better discuss tactics in Karazhan.
By the way - it’s good that you switched to personal insults, I’ll remove you from the forum for some time for everyone, so that as paladins, cleansing the lands from evil spirits.
