New PC, BFA performance/Temps

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i7-9600, 16gb ddr4, stock RTX 2070 8gb. I love world of warcraft bfa. But trying to tweak it is insanly difficult as its largely CPU based. Im am trying to understand what is happening so that i can keep my system cooler.

I run the game @ 4k as i play on a 55’’ screen @60hz. This enables me to drop things like AA features as pixel compressions is amazing. I play the game on Ultra, with a few features bumped down just a notch.

Vsync on and FPS at 60fps, CPU in game sits 42-52% @ 80’c while in a busy Boralus enviroment. GPU sits around 60% load but reaches temps of 81+'c.

This all feels too hot for such a simple game.

*tried bumping down resolutions but had the exact same high temps and loads.
**tests performed with no addons.(made no cpu impact anyways)

Would undervolting benifit me? Or is this all fine?

Non wow idle on desktop temps: CPU 60’c with 7% load, GPU 44’c with 5% load.

anything under 100 for the CPU is “okay” in that it won’t throttle. it isn’t doing any favors, but it won’t damage it.

i’m guessing you have an i7-9700? are you using the stock intel cooler?

sounds like you are. and you should upgrade that. if you are at 80c while gaming, then in a real workload you will be throttling. and the stock cooler is probably doing its best and sounding like a jet engine while only managing 80c. upgrading on a locked CPU will prevent throttling and reduce noise.

get a decent tower cooler; nothing fancy. a Scythe Ninja 5, noctua ndh15/14, or basically anything is better than the intel stock cooler.

As for your GPU, 80c is fine. It’s not cool, but it’s okay. If you want, you can ramp up the fan curve to keep it cooler, but it will be noisier.

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The CPU is a i7-9700. I figured it may be cheap stock coolers. Ill take that advice on replacing the CPU cooler. I do run MSI afterburner and have adjusted a more aggresive fan curve.

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Yeah, the 9700 will boost to 4.5-4.6 and stay there if cooling allows it. If you are using the stock cooler, it probably won’t able to maintain that for long in a stressed scenario.

Ideally if you can get it into the 70s for normal use you will be in a much better place.

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Totally makes sense. Im surfing a local retailer for L1151 coolers. I dont want to go liquid. Im sure its just that this PC builder cut corners.

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peruse this list. it’s pretty good resource. Since you aren’t overclocking, don’t need to go nuts. But I would definitely go for a “better 212” or higher since its an 8-core, and it will last you a while.

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/891730-cpu-cooler-performance-tier-list/

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If your case can accommodate it, I highly recommend Noctua coolers. They perform very well, totally worth their price. The NH-D14 in my tower cools a 6700k excellently, and its larger brother the NH-D15 should be more than enough to keep a 9700k at reasonable temperatures.

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Thoughts on the artic freezer 34 esports duo? seems to be in a mid/low price range.

I think the Arctic Freezer 34 Esports Duo is okay.

For something like a Ryzen 5 3600 or a locked 8700, it would be a great choice. For an 8-core Intel part, I’d honestly go for something a little larger.

https://www.amazon.com/Scythe-Ninja-CPU-Cooler-SCNJ-5000/dp/B079X3DBH8/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=scythe+fuma+5&qid=1589241065&s=electronics&sr=1-2

Is a great price for this cooler. It’s got 6 heat pipes and almost twice as much mass.

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Some good suggestions for a better cooler since about anything is better then the stock Intel cooler. Just make sure you got the height in the case for it and it also clears the ram.

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You ready to have your mind blown? Because i was using a complex TV it was using a color profile that caused a background process to consistantly run at high CPU usage. By simply replacing my CABLE with a proper 4k allowed me to switch to sRGB which made that cpu process disapear all together. Everything is TIGHT and all my games run massivly better.

I’ve never heard of this is ever in my life, lol

wouldn’t that be a GPU thing?

It all was discovered when watching my cpu usage on my desktop. When i moved my mouse, it would spike to 35%+ cpu. Internet is NOT friendly and i tried well over a dozen solutions. I came across an nvidia beta forum discussing cymk color profiles and there impact on 4k 60 hz+ telivisions. So glad it worked. Swapped the cable, the RGB profile was enabled, selected it. Instant results.

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Interesting. Still would be a good idea to get your cooling under control. If you’re getting those temps at 35%+ CPU load, then you will want the capacity to cool it in those scenarios.

reducing the cpu load was the heart of the issue. Lower load has reduced all temps. sitting idle at 30’c and BFA raiding max at 55’c.

Right, but that artificially increased your load. When/if you actually get to that load (AAA games I’m looking at you) you’ll see similar temps.

Perhaps now right now, but it is something you’ll want to consider.

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You are correct. I had also replaced stock cooler recently with esportsDuo… amazing product and i highly recomend it. Sorry a lot of time has passed since i originally made the post. Just so glad i dont have a lemon PC.

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Display cables can do some really weird stuff these days, probably due to how much they’re capable of.

Right now I’m seeing a bug where my PC won’t even get to the manufacturer EFI screen while booting if the HDMI cable running to my second monitor is plugged in. Unplug it and everything boots fine, plug it back in after it’s hit the EFI screen and it works fine. It’s like something about the cable is messing with the PC’s POST.

I don’t reboot often enough for it to be too much of an annoyance but I need to pull out a different HDMI or DisplayPort cable and verify if the cable actually is the issue.

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